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Loving and forgiving your enemies

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Loving and forgiving your enemies
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RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies
December 12, 2015 at 10:35 am
(December 12, 2015 at 10:31 am)Evie Wrote:
(December 12, 2015 at 10:28 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: And it isn't a false fucking dichotomy since the FUCKING SCENARIO I DESCRIBED LITERALLY INCLUDES JUST THE TWO OPTIONS. ITS NOT REALITY, IT'S A FUCKING THOUGHT EXPERIMENT.

If the only two options for some bizarre reason was "stab the person to death" or "turn the other cheek" then it wouldn't be a false dichotomy.

If you are forcing her in your thought experiment to choose one of those options, then it's not a very useful thought experiment. If it actually happened that would be a false dichotomy.

Oh and fucking hell, calm the fuck down before you hurt yourself.

The underlying point is, forgiveness is all about understanding a person's future intentions. If you know for sure someone is irredeeamable, you would have no grounds to excuse them. Conversely, if you knew they wouldn't ever do it again, or knew for sure why they did it and think you can prevent it from repeating you would "forgive" them.
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Loving and forgiving your enemies

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Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 11, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Iroscato - December 11, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by c172 - December 11, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by abaris - December 11, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Minimalist - December 11, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Divinity - December 11, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Alex K - December 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Cato - December 11, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 6:04 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2015 at 6:17 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 7:06 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Athene - December 11, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Athene - December 11, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Athene - December 11, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 7:09 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 11, 2015 at 7:17 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by brewer - December 11, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Chad32 - December 11, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 11, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 11, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by KevinM1 - December 12, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2015 at 5:48 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Grandizer - December 12, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2015 at 7:17 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 7:31 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 8:58 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 12, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Whateverist - December 12, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:27 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Whateverist - December 12, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Whateverist - December 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:01 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:10 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:34 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by The Grand Nudger - December 12, 2015 at 3:51 pm

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