(December 9, 2015 at 10:57 am)athrock Wrote:(December 7, 2015 at 7:46 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The problem with that argument is that it asserts by fiat that objective moral values are contingent on the existence of God.
I (and many others) disagree on that.
Why should we accept that assertion?
Because it is the most reasonable conclusion of careful thought about the matter.
Take god out of the picture for the moment...
Now, ask yourself two questions:
1. Do any objective moral values exist or are all moral values subjective?
2. If objective moral values exist, what is the basis for or source of them?
I look forward to reading your thoughts.
The problem is, though, that you are simply asserting something to be true and desirable because it is your personal opinion that it must be true and desirable. In order for your premise to stand, you have to provide evidence that it is logical, plausible and supported by reality. "Because I will it to be so" is not sufficient to have it so.
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