The Moral Argument for God

[athrock]

Yes, let's just assume everyone magically agree's there is no other factors to consider. Clearly if morality exists god must exist.

And you're here telling me the logic of that argument is solid?

No. Because that is not the argument.

If OBJECTIVE moral values exist, then there must be an independent standard from which these values are derived or against which they are evaluated.

Otherwise, our moral values are merely the result of personal preferences or social conventions.

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1. Do any objective moral values exist or are all moral values subjective?
2. If objective moral values exist, what is the basis for or source of them?

1. All moral values are subjective. 

So, it's racial discrimination is okay under some circumstances, places and times? It's not always wrong to treat people differently because of the color of their skin?

2. If a God were to "create" morals based on what it believed to be right or wrong, that is still subjective because what is decided by opinion (even if the opinion belongs to a supreme being) cannot, by definition, be objective.

Euthyphro's Dilemma again. Answered previously. In brief, theists argue that God does not "decide" what is good; God IS good, and all things are measured against that absolute standard.