RE: The Moral Argument for God
December 15, 2015 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2015 at 2:40 pm by Vincent.)
(December 15, 2015 at 1:49 pm)athrock Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 4:30 am)Vincent Wrote: 1. All moral values are subjective.
So, it's racial discrimination is okay under some circumstances, places and times? It's not always wrong to treat people differently because of the color of their skin?
I've already responded to and defeated this argument several times in the last post I made that you failed to reply to. You have a flawed understanding of subjective morality.
Subjective is not what we perceive to be moral always and everywhere. Subjective is what is decided through feelings and opinions. And everything that man has ever declared immoral has been decided by his own perception of what is right and wrong. Thus, everything moral is subjective.
I ask you again, what makes murder wrong?
Quote:Euthyphro's Dilemma again. Answered previously. In brief, theists argue that God does not "decide" what is good; God IS good, and all things are measured against that absolute standard.
Alright. How? You're walking around the dilemma not by approaching it directly, but by changing your word choice.
How do you decide what is good? You cannot communicate with god directly.
And furthermore, how do you know that God is good?
And furthermore, explain to me the science behind something being factually good?
Good is subjective. Something can be perceived to be good or bad, depending on the individual, but it cannot exist as being good as fact.