Quote: You're asking me to respect a belief that the supernatural exists? Like ghosts, warlocks, witches, zombies, Harry Potter and such? Sorry, can't do that. I refuse to respect those beliefs and quite frankly I'm not going to respect the people that hold them.
Dotard... poor you, you really believe that you and your tiny group of atheists are the only intelligent rational people on Earth don't you? How sad and delusional. I do not make that claim that there are no well meaning intelligent atheists, I am not so arrogant. I feel for those arrogant ignorant people who think they are the only right ones, and treat anyone with differing opinions with disdain and disrespect. I have the great respect for any man who is truly seeking truth in charity, whether he is athesit, Muslim, Buddhist or Christian.
Quote:Obviously you believe this God character to be part of reality. Why?
One can arrive at the conclusion that there is a God using the natural light of reason. Granted that one must accept certain facts as a-priori like you have an intrinsic value and that there is a right and a wrong. Now this is fairly similar to accepting that you exist, which is funny becuase in a way atheists even deny that. Atheism is a delusion, it says ultimately I do not exist, I am really just random reactions brought about by colliding atoms. We know we exist, and we know we are of value, real intrinsic value, not just relative value. You see when one postulates that the universe makes sense and that there is meaning he arrives at the conclusion that there is an Unmoved Mover to the material realm, and an Unmoved Mover of sorts within the metaphysical realm, in the metaphysical realm this God gives us meaning, a soul, reason and a purpose. Santa Clause bears the marks of an entirely different sort, so does the spagehtti monster and what ever silly devices people invent to make themselves fill good about belittleing a perfectly legitimate worldview. This is only an arguement for Theism. Once you arrive at this conclusion there is a whole different set of distinctions and observations to be made that sound stupid when one has not accepted Theism as true, before one arrives at the belief in Christ. It would be like trying to explain evolution to a child when they don't have a decent understanding of science. They will conclude that it is rediculous that we came from monkeys, but this is clearly not what the theory of evolution teaches but it can sound that rediculous if you do not go through the process of learning about it. So its useless for me to try and talk about Christianity until one has acquired a healthy respect for Theism in general.
Ultimately Christianity and Theism teach that death and nihil is not the final say, it is not our ultimate destiny; rather, life is our final destiny. If you choose to BELIEVE that death is certainly the final say, that is your business. Do not delude youself with lies that Theism is pure foolishness and only stupid people beleive it. The fact is many of the greatest minds of all time were Theist, to this very day. Yes there is a new phenomonon that is taking root in universities that is atheism, but I doubt it will last to much longer. Theism is a tried and true way to view the world. It relies upon the axiom that there is an intrinsic value, which forces the rational mind to conclude that there is a metaphysical realm that is not subject to the same temporality that we experience. If you would like I could list some of the great minds who were theist, in any century since the beginning of recorded history. I do not mind people saying that Theism does not make as much sense to me. Or I choose not to believe in it because it seems less probably to me, but to act like its absolutely foolish just exposes that you are ignorant and arrogant. Once again, I do not say that all atheist are crazy or delusional, I have great respect for some, many are my dear friends, and I have some respect for Bertrand Russel and David Hume, two great minds. But I also have a great respect for Theists like Leibniz, Galileo, Newton, Tesla and Einstein.
Atheism is the real delusion which claims that we ultimately don't exist, and that there is no intrinsic value, that there is no right or wrong. I know better than that. I know I exist. I think therefore I am. I know that I have value, its a-priori to my entire being. I know that there is a right and a wrong. I do not delude myself into believeing that I am ultimately the result of random atom collisions.
