RE: Quran and Hadiths
January 20, 2011 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm by Rayaan.)
(January 16, 2011 at 8:05 am)annatar Wrote: But as you quoted it is believed to be 8th century quran either...
Eighth century is an appoximated date, so the Quran could also be from the beginning of the 8th century or the end of the 8th century, but no one stated that specifically and there are different opinions on the date because others have said that it is from the 7th century as well. The carbon dating analysis shows that it most likely to be from the 7th century (from 609 to 694 CE with a 95.2% confidence level), which again, has a wide range of possible dates.
(January 16, 2011 at 8:05 am)annatar Wrote: So we should rely on palaeographic studies which suggest that its a 8th century..
I didn't see any paleographic studies of the Quran that I posted. Quote it if you find it. Only your link talks about the paleographic studies which is about a different Quran.
(January 16, 2011 at 8:05 am)annatar Wrote: Real history of quran;
http://www.turandursun.net/index.php?opt...38&lang=en
The article looks like a very poorly researched history of the Quran. I'll post more comments about this at a later post in this thread.
While you're waiting for the reply, here are some of the problems that I noticed, which are:
(1) The author has quoted several hadiths and he distorted some of their meanings by changing the words and/or by deleting parts of the original text of the hadiths. (2) He incorrectly spells the name "Bukhari" as "Buhari" (omits the letter "k" in the name) every single time throughout the whole article. That's not even how you pronounce it. (3) His approach on the history of the Quran is inconsistent because he used several quotes from the works of Al-Suyuti and Imam Bukhari who themselves accepted the authenticity of the Quran.
(January 16, 2011 at 9:32 am)muhtesem insan Wrote: According to your link, this quran is from 8th century.
The link says that there is a probability that the Quran is from either 7th or the 8th century, but there is no certainty. It's only an approximation according to scientific analysis.
(January 16, 2011 at 9:32 am)muhtesem insan Wrote: What dates back to 7th century is a fragment from another quran.
No, it's from the same Quran. The link doesn't say that it's from "another" quran.
Here's the quote again:
"On the basis of a privately held fragment of the Qur'an carbon dated to the 7th century CE (609-694 CE with a 95.2% confidence level) showing similar script, textual aids and illumination, Dutton dated Arabic Palaeography Plates 1-12 (i.e., Ms. 139) to a roughly similar timeframe, i.e., the Umayyad period."
