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Pascal's Wager
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RE: Pascal's Wager
(September 6, 2008 at 9:10 pm)Pete Wrote: God also gave us free will so we have the choice not to worship him. Did your parents give you choice of whether or not to like them/love them? In fact they couldn't make you like them/love them. But most people love their parents.

How could we have free will if God has omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence?

God is the ultimate designer with ultimate knowledge and power. He knows what we're going to do before we do. Therefore our 'fate' is already predestined. Otherwise he would not be able to know our future because it would be a series of random events.

If I have three cups sitting in front of me and I have to choose one. God already knows what I'm going to pick. If I pick the red one God will know and I can't pick the blue or the green.

God designed us, he knows how we work. He knows how we think. Basically we're programs and God knows every line of code.

UNLESS however he is merely predicting our future. Similar to how we can predict the weather. In that case God cannot see in te future and he isn't all powerful and all knowing.

If he can then it's predesigned and our decisions have already been made. We can't change those decisions.

Quote:Actually an atheist is a person who rejects what theists accept as evidence of the existance of God.

Like.....?

Quote:Do you know much about why so many scientists believe in God? Have you looked into it at all or read anything about it? There is a question that physicists are struggeling with now regarding the fine tuning of the constants of nature. Are you familiar with it?

lol

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2...-God'.html

People have many reasons for believing in a God. From personal experience I've seen people believe in God because of their upbringing. Some because they fear death. Others like the emotional security and we're naturally supersitious. Maybe the "God did it" answer gives you satisfaction of knowing the unknown. However those unknown answers are now becoming known. 1000 years ago you would've claimed God makes the grass grow, making the sun rise and fall, making it rain etc. But now we know what causes these things.


People being highly superstitious and believing the supernatural is evident in our society and most likely the most probaible cause of believing in God. Like conspiracy theorists, Ghost and alien investigators etc.

However if you're trying to incorperate a supernatural entity to a form of study that only deals with natural occurences then...........wha?
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Messages In This Thread
Pascal's Wager - by Ace Otana - September 1, 2008 at 8:43 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Eilonnwy - September 1, 2008 at 12:13 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Tiberius - September 1, 2008 at 6:56 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Jason Jarred - September 1, 2008 at 7:18 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 1, 2008 at 8:45 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Jason Jarred - September 1, 2008 at 9:26 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 1, 2008 at 9:39 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Jason Jarred - September 1, 2008 at 9:55 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 2, 2008 at 8:46 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2008 at 9:08 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 2, 2008 at 4:31 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Ace Otana - September 2, 2008 at 5:21 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 3, 2008 at 7:39 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Ace Otana - September 4, 2008 at 6:34 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Brick-top - September 2, 2008 at 1:16 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Eilonnwy - September 2, 2008 at 1:47 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by WOKE UP - September 3, 2008 at 10:46 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Tiberius - September 4, 2008 at 12:32 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 6, 2008 at 9:10 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Jason Jarred - September 7, 2008 at 9:54 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Meatball - September 7, 2008 at 10:38 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Brick-top - September 8, 2008 at 6:40 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Darwinian - September 7, 2008 at 4:51 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Tiberius - September 7, 2008 at 1:22 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Eilonnwy - September 9, 2008 at 8:39 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 10, 2008 at 8:54 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by allan175 - September 11, 2008 at 4:38 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Tiberius - September 9, 2008 at 3:23 am
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Eilonnwy - September 11, 2008 at 2:32 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Pete - September 11, 2008 at 7:51 pm
RE: Pascal's Wager - by Tiberius - September 12, 2008 at 5:06 am

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