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Quran and Hadiths
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RE: Quran and Hadiths
Rayaan.. I am still waiting for you to refute turan dursun's article. You said "he has quoted several hadiths and he distorted some of their meanings by changing the words and/or by deleting parts of the original text of the hadiths". That is a serious accusation, and so far you were unable to prove it. My guess is you mislead by people whom turan dursun really pissed off by telling the truth. He used trusted hadiths among muslim world to prove his assertions. So that no one can say his sources are corrupted or lie..(well, you said that but it seems you are unable to prove it. That makes your assertion baseless)
Quote:The first original scripts of the Quran were written on small stones, pieces of leather and wood, bones and similar things. All of them were burnt!
The second original of the Quran verses were gathered together during the time when Abu Bakr was the Caliph. They were burnt, too!
The third original one consisted of “yazmas” (manuscripts) copied during the time when Othman was the Caliph. They do not exist anywhere in the world!(which is the main subject of this topic)
The investigations and conveyances have shown that the verses in today’s Quran are neither exactly the same as the ones which are claimed to have been “dictated by Muhammad to his scribes”, nor does the present Quran contain “all” of the verses that existed in the original one. Caliph Mervan explains his reasons for burning the original copy as follows;
“All that was written in the original Quran was conveyed into the “Mushafs” (later copies of the Quran) by Othman, so there was no need for the original one. If it had not been burnt, some suspicions would have arisen and the doubts around the “Mushafs” would not have ceased. I was afraid of that, so I had the original scripts burnt.” (Ref.: ıb Ebi Davud, Leiden 1937, pub., p.243-Suphi e's-Salih Mebahis Fi ulum-il Kuran).
http://www.turandursun.net/index.php?opt...38&lang=en
Apart from its contradictions, quran is an unraliable source, and probably changed several times over its history.Not to mention the dialect and the alphabet of the original scripts has changed and made the them vulnerable to misinterpretations.
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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Quran and Hadiths - by annatar - January 14, 2011 at 9:20 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - January 16, 2011 at 7:37 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by muhtesem insan - January 16, 2011 at 9:32 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by annatar - January 16, 2011 at 8:05 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - January 20, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by annatar - January 20, 2011 at 7:09 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by padraic - January 20, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Minimalist - January 20, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - January 21, 2011 at 12:13 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Minimalist - January 21, 2011 at 12:54 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by padraic - January 21, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - January 22, 2011 at 8:00 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Minimalist - January 22, 2011 at 4:04 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - January 23, 2011 at 8:29 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Minimalist - January 23, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by muhtesem insan - January 23, 2011 at 1:17 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Minimalist - January 23, 2011 at 4:12 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by padraic - January 24, 2011 at 3:14 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by annatar - January 24, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - January 24, 2011 at 9:26 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by annatar - March 11, 2011 at 11:12 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - March 13, 2011 at 7:06 am
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by reverendjeremiah - March 13, 2011 at 2:22 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - June 15, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Rayaan - June 15, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by annatar - July 16, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Minimalist - July 16, 2011 at 8:09 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by annatar - July 16, 2011 at 8:32 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Minimalist - July 16, 2011 at 9:42 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by R00tKiT - October 11, 2022 at 4:23 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 11, 2022 at 4:42 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by arewethereyet - October 11, 2022 at 5:10 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by Angrboda - October 11, 2022 at 5:12 pm
RE: Quran and Hadiths - by arewethereyet - October 11, 2022 at 5:14 pm

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