(January 26, 2011 at 5:14 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:This is getting a little tedious now as I have now repeatedly described my conversion, making quite clear what it did and did not involve, and the difference between my prior and posterior understandings of the experiences. Let me make things quite plain:(January 25, 2011 at 4:42 pm)Matthew Wrote: I didn't say that I thought God was communicating with me.Yes you did. You said you were the intended recipient of God's thoughts. You are saying that the Christian God is, or was, communicating with you at some point in events that led up to your conversion.
Prior to conversion: I did not perceive, sense, observe, hear or communicate with God in any way. I did not think that God was interacting with me. I struggled with my own thoughts, and I acknowledged that the direction my thinking was going was not anything to do with my will, and I did not desire to acknowledge the Christian God. I recognised that I was being drawn towards the Christian God, despite my desires against this. Because of these desires, I was under the impression that something else (perhaps chance, necessity, God's direction, I did not know) was involved other than myself.
After conversion: I interpret the process described above as being directed and guided by the Christian God. Not speaking directly to me, or entering into my thoughts, or altering my thoughts, or anything of that sort. Simply that the reason that I was drawn towards the Christian God was beings He had drawn me to Himself through the process.
Quote:Matthew can you answer one question? I'm asking you politely what branch of Christian theology that deals with salvation you would regard as true, because it is through this interpretation of the soteriology you are establishing what makes someone a Christian.First off, let me make clear an important distinction in case of any confusion: the difference between becoming a Christian and being a Christian. We are talking about the former. This process of becoming a Christian (which Jesus calls being "born again" in John 3) is called "regeneration". With respect to regeneration, I take the Reformed view that regeneration is solely the work of God, and that it precedes faith.
Matthew
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"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." C.S. Lewis
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"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." C.S. Lewis