The Problem of Good

[orangebox21]

Too bad you can't demonstrate that, eh, lol?

 
What have we been doing the past couple of pages?

Hey, while we're on subject, I have a similar agreement with one of your co-believers, perhaps you'd be willing to negotiate.  I'll consider -you- one of his people, created in his image, if you allow that I am not.

No deal.

Besides, do you want me to be somehow informative as to the nature of a god?  Is there a little Rhythm in the Lord?

 
Regardless of what I want, you are in fact informative as to the nature of God.  Although it's not that there's a little Rhythm in the Lord, but rather there's a reflection of the Lord in the Rhythm.

I don't have one of these "free will" things, it's not even possible for me to have one.  So some part of your statement must be untrue.  Side with my creation as the false bit and you can salvage your free will, and your god.  

Well of course you'd say that, you can't say anything to the contrary.  Everything you say and everything you do is completely out of your control.  Let me know how that works out for you when a police officer pulls you over for speeding  

Just to clarify, I'm not claiming we do or we don't actually "make choices", whatever that may mean. It may well be an unfalsifiable proposition, although if anything the evidence seems to point more and more towards our perceived choices being different from our actual choices (if any). We delude ourselves regarding our own choices.

Are you deluded now?  

I'm just saying that the phrase "free will" is a shifty, slippery term which does more to confuse the issue than resolve it, in my opinion.

we should just stick to the verifiable science.

I think you should heed your own advice.  Then again given you can't scientifically verify the statement "we should just stick to the verifiable science" it would be impossible for you to heed your own advice.