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Newly deconverted
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RE: Newly deconverted
(January 5, 2016 at 1:51 pm)robvalue Wrote: I can't imagine how weird it must have felt to have woken up... I've never been through it myself, having not been indoctrinated. Congratulations on working hard and seeking the truth. Like you say, the truth need not fear investigation. The field of apologetics is the most dishonest "discussion" I've ever seen. It's mind meltingly awful and painful to watch. It's only aimed at placating believers, who won't look closely enough to see it's all hogwash.

As someone who used to participate in the apologetics thing, I don't necessarily believe that guys like William Lane Craig are charlatans, as some atheists insist.  It's more plausible for me to believe that they are simply brain washed.  I can remember coming up with arguments that I felt were ironclad.  I still feel they are pretty ironclad, so long as I start with a presupposition and cherry pick the evidence I need to support them.  Thing is, I didn't even realize I was doing this at the time.  My belief was that the bible is true, therefore the evidence that can be manipulated to demonstrate Creation is true, and any evidence that seems to conflict is simply misinterpreted.  I could not conceive of the notion that the King James Bible might not be inerrant, because that was branded on my mind by the people I loved and trusted before I was mature enough to reason.  After "waking up", it became clear to me that I had been in the process of awakening for at least 5 years without even realizing what was happening.
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Newly deconverted - by Old Baby - January 5, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 1:51 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Old Baby - January 5, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by rexbeccarox - January 5, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Alex K - January 5, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by brewer - January 5, 2016 at 1:57 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by drfuzzy - January 5, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Excited Penguin - January 5, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Old Baby - January 5, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Red_Wind - January 5, 2016 at 2:59 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Excited Penguin - January 5, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by AFTT47 - January 5, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Faith No More - January 5, 2016 at 2:17 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by AFTT47 - January 5, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by drfuzzy - January 5, 2016 at 3:02 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Excited Penguin - January 5, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Whateverist - January 5, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Minimalist - January 5, 2016 at 3:01 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Minimalist - January 5, 2016 at 3:30 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Whateverist - January 5, 2016 at 3:47 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by drfuzzy - January 5, 2016 at 8:32 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Old Baby - January 5, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Sal - January 5, 2016 at 4:52 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Joods - January 5, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Newly deconverted - by Simon Moon - January 5, 2016 at 6:38 pm

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