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What is a real Muslim?
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RE: What is a real Muslim?
it really is amazing at the amount of ignorance here but not surprising since atheists prove to be just as ignorant and stupid as those who they criticise most

and further what is amazing, is that it is not just here but the majority of atheists are just as bad as ISIS or any other extremist group , who hold onto some idea that they propagate and insist on despite that nobody has any idea bout it

firstly if any of you had basic knowledge about Islam, and if your going to argue about anything you ought to KNOW what your talking about and not simply hearsay

a Muslim is somebody who declares "There is no God but Allah(swt) and Muhammad is His messenger"

however it doesn't end there , a person can lose this status of being a Muslim by doing even one defined action in the Quran which is considered as a major sin, such as being a polytheist or being a disbeliever and other things

in which case he would need to restate the "Shahadat"(as above) and repent for his/her sins

being a Muslims is the lowest state of faith, being a believer is a higher state of faith, and being a "Mummin" is the highest mentioned state in the Quran, there is higher states but they are not easily achieved or self declared, but God given titles such as "Messenger" "Prophet" "Imam" and others, some are unattainable at all at this point in time i.e Prophet since the revelation was completed with Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) and he was the seal of the Prophets and others are not defined literally but implied secretly with those who have higher understanding of the secrets of the Quran which are often mentioned in the Quran as "..those who have knowledge..." or "..those who are given knowledge.." and other titles , also special titles are reserved for them as well such as the Quran says "..None praise God appropriately except the Angels and those who have been given knowledge.." meaning that no human is even able to praise Him or know Him except those who have special revealed knowledge

but other states are still achievable and available, but not easy or even their paths known, they are more esoteric

a person who achieves a high level state can perform God given miracles, but such people are extremely rare and if they exist they are very secretive because that is a God given secret to them

the main thing is that it comes down to actions

the Quran says "Have you seen the one who has taken as his lord his own vein desires" so belief in God or gods or your own gods is even defined in the Quran (not in positive connotation) but what is defined here more importantly is that lordship and worship and belief is not what you say but what you do , and some who might even consider themselves otherwise might in God's eyes look differently then they know or think , and vice versa

and this is complemented by God as "God knows you better then you know yourself..." and "...He is more closer to you then your jugular vein.."
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What is a real Muslim? - by StuW - November 16, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by TheRealJoeFish - November 16, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by abaris - November 23, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by ReptilianPeon - November 16, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by downbeatplumb - November 16, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Ludwig - November 16, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Minimalist - November 16, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Napoléon - November 16, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by dyresand - November 16, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by ignoramus - November 16, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by ignoramus - November 16, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 17, 2015 at 5:21 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 17, 2015 at 5:30 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by StuW - November 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 17, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Napoléon - November 23, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by StuW - November 17, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 17, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by MysticKnight - November 19, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 19, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by mr_j936 - November 23, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Brian37 - November 23, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Minimalist - November 23, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 23, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 23, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Brian37 - November 23, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Napoléon - November 24, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Brian37 - November 25, 2015 at 9:06 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 25, 2015 at 3:19 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Reforged - November 25, 2015 at 9:09 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by mr_j936 - November 25, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 26, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by StuW - November 26, 2015 at 7:30 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - November 26, 2015 at 7:32 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 24, 2015 at 5:05 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by robvalue - December 24, 2015 at 5:51 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 25, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by Brian37 - December 24, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by vorlon13 - December 25, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by yukapuka - January 6, 2016 at 8:06 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: What is a real Muslim? - by yukapuka - January 6, 2016 at 8:37 am

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