(January 8, 2016 at 1:35 am)robvalue Wrote:(January 7, 2016 at 10:50 pm)Old Baby Wrote: I haven't read all 31 pages of this thread so someone else might have said this.
The "If God designed X, why is it screwed up?" argument posed to a Christian is going to be explained with the story of Adam's fall.
In the beginning, everything was perfect. Then, Adam ate the apple and suddenly we had thorns and weeds and back aches and eye problems and guys only living to be 500 instead of 1000.
Yeah, I think it's still a good argument as it shows the hypocrisy of certain approaches.
"Humans are so amazing and brilliant and wonderful, they must have been designed!"
"But they are shit. [Insert facts about human biology]"
"Yes! That's because of [insert scapegoat]."
"So if they're shit, they're not wonderful, so you defeated your own argument."
"Free will."
"What?"
"Look over there!" *runs off*
Absolutely, I agree with you. Just saying that if you're wanting to pin Christians down it's not the best way to go because they'll just scoff at you for not understanding the bible. The bible is the only real tangible aspect of Christian faith. Being convinced that it was not divine was the final blow that shattered my faith. Sure, there are apologetics, but honest people know when they are being coerced.
