Intelligent Design

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

There was hydrogen atoms and oxygen atoms and water before we defined them as hydrogen atoms and oxygen atoms and water.

-and........?  Please finish your thoughts.

Is wrong because even if we didn't define what we got from h20 as water we'd still get water. We don't get water because we defined what we get as water, we get water because it was how it was designed.

No, if we defined h20 as fleeflerp we'd get fleeflerp.  The world would be covered in it.  You've already been told what fallacy you're committing here.  The only thing that's designed in your example is the word, not the object - and it still isn't an example of ID.....as the contention of ID is -not- that people make words.

This is inexcusably lazy baiting.  I demand, at the very least, some entertainment value.

Just like in the case of 1 + 2 = 3 , we get that result not because we defined the result as 3 but because of the design we enforced in the number system and addition operation.

We get water if h20 even if we did or did not define what we get from h20 as water. We don't get water because of h20 because we defined what we get from h20 as water..