(January 9, 2016 at 7:51 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:There are very smart people on both sides of the debate. That is why we are better off looking at the evidence for ourselves, rather than just appeal to others. If the evidence is too complicated, then we need to educate ourselves more to where we can comprehend them. I agree that there are a lot of really bright people who believe evolution, but I think that this is more due to the fact that it has been taught to them as fact since they were very young. Once people reach a decision about what they do or do not believe, they become stuck in their ways, and will twist the evidence to fit their ideology. EVERYONE does this. You, me, and every scientist involved in the debate. The intelligent design and creationist arguments are based on scientific evidence. So is the theory of evolution. They all have holes. Only one is taught in school, so you would expect the majority of the population to accept it.(January 9, 2016 at 6:40 pm)AAA Wrote: It is true that I don't know for sure, but I'm not claiming that I am 100% correct, I am just claiming that the appearance of design is best explained by an intelligent agent. I don't know for sure, but neither do you.I don't claim to know everything, nor really that much, but you are making an assertion which only a small handful of people will support, and your circumstantial motivation is obvious. I am in no way motivated to disbelieve anything if it happens to be true, this is your failure. Moreover, you represent the position of a very culturally isolated group, which is virtually nonexistent outside of the US. This is hardly the "everyone else belives" argument when you consider just who these people are that doubt your ideas, and a lot of them aren't even atheists or agnostic. They just know the difference between science and propaganda, and they aren't stupid.
There is no evidence in support of your design ideas, and by all logic it is the most unlikely means by which any life came to be. What can be asserted without evidence requires no evidence to dismiss it.
The inner workings of the cell are evidence. I think that they are better evidence for design than evolution. You can say that it isn't based on evidence if that makes you feel better, but we look at the same facts, just have a different interpretation.