RE: Intelligent Design
January 14, 2016 at 9:07 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2016 at 9:10 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(January 14, 2016 at 6:05 pm)AAA Wrote:(January 14, 2016 at 5:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, life is extremely, amazingly plastic. Sure, we may be used to finding it in damp, warm, oxygenated environs, but there are organisms - right here on good old Terra - that live and thrive in dessicated environments; frigid environments; anaerobic environments; environments so rich in sulfur compounds that they'd kill any mammal of our acquaintance; environments of low enough pressure to kill a bird; environments of high enough pressure to crush a human skull (or even a car); environs so loaded with toxins that humans couldn't survive in them without very special equipment; and so on.
Give the number of different conditions under which life thrives on Earth, it is utterly silly to think that live could not survive in the environments of other planets.
Boru
Exactly, life is everywhere we look on Earth. Yet it is nowhere we have seen yet in the rest of the universe (i know we don't have a large sample size yet, but still).
So why aren't you helping NASA look for it on Mars, instead of shitting all over their efforts to sort out the truth?
Quote: This could easily point to the fact that they were designed to live in all conditions.
There's a very simple way of finding out: Dive to the bottom of a mid-Atlantic hydrothermal vent and collect samples of the many fish, crustaceans and eels which survive there off food sources which are not based on photosynthesis, but chemosynthesis from highly toxic hydrogen sulfide. Take them home, put them in your aquarium, and feed them OTC fish food, then see how long they last.
Can't afford to rent a deep-sea submersible or robo-diver? Here's an easy way - take a fish out of water anywhere, and see how long it lasts out of the water.
Well, why else, short of utter desperation, would you post anything nearly so stupid as that idea?
Quote:If we have archaea that live in Mars-like conditions here on earth, then why aren't there bacteria on mars. When you look at how complicated the mechanisms that allow extremophiles to survive in these areas, it begins to look more like design (at least to me),
Ok, first it was the fine-tuning argument based on asserted impossibilities, and now with that can of shit unpacked for you life is just too complicated. YOU are the one who's complicated (profoundly so), and to say something so pathetically weak as that shows how desperate you are to go on believing what you say.
Life is not too complicated, it simply evolves in any way that it can, and we probably don't know all the possible ways that it can do this on our own planet. It does not look like design, not one bit. It looks like what happened because it had to, just as the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics calls for it. Life increases entropy (now there's your meaning of it for you)!
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