Franics Collins

[The Grand Nudger]

Or it isn't.  You sit on one side of the line and I sit on the other.  Ne'er the twain shall meet, eh?  I have to ask, though...would you advocate that we kill 70k people if our government failed to conduct a census properly?  Will you advocate for the execution of children for the incompetence of a census taker or the crimes of their parents?

Show me that you have the courage of your convictions.  Condone those actions.  Or...... are you a fraud?

You keep assuming that 70K died simply because David conducted a census. And maybe that was true, but maybe there were other reasons for God's punishment of the people with the census merely being the final straw, so to speak.

"Mysterious reasons" are interchangeable with no reasons at all.  Why would you even need to speculate as to these mysterious reasons if you were actually as comfortable with the stated reasons as you claim to be?

There is no moral equivalency between God and a human government. Consequently, God may rightly choose to act in a way that a government cannot. After all, the government would be executing people who belong ultimately to God, and it has no right to do so any more than you have the right to kill your neighbor's dog for barking all night.

Agreed.  "God" is bush league compared to our governments, which is saying something.......considering.....

One other point: You do have a proclivity for name-calling, don't you? According to you, I'm a liar, a missionary, and now a fraud.

You seem to be all of these things.  I give you the opportunity to disabuse me of these notions constantly, but you seem to be intent upon doing nothing -but- confirm my assessments.

Are you this unkind to everyone you meet? Or is this a special hatred reserved for those whose religious views you despise?

I'm unkind to you because you have espoused a litany of fundamentally unkind points of view.  Such as the perfect justice of killing a child for the crimes (and crimes only very, very loosely) of the parent, or the incompetence of a census taker, "mysterious reasons", or a "stench" in a gods nostrils.

If you and Minimalist are good examples of what atheism does to the soul of those who embrace it, I think you FAIL as ambassadors for your own alternative belief system. With atheists like you spewing your venom in forums such as this, there will be no shortage of people who want nothing to do with your kind of hate.

Seeing as I don't have a soul, it's difficult to see what atheism could do to it.