RE: Seeing red
January 18, 2016 at 7:02 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2016 at 7:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 18, 2016 at 6:57 pm)bennyboy Wrote: See, these statements, taken together, do not seem rational to me.No, you disagree with these statements. You are not convinced by the things that convince me. It isn't for irrationality but for a disagreement over propositions. You have demanded full knowledge, and you have stated that things may not be as they seem. Neither of these, are criticisms of -any- given proposition. They are criticisms on the efficacy of reason.
Quote:I don't know what rules you're talking about, which is the implicit one that disagreeing with you is irrational. I think my position is perfectly logical-- that's why I hold it. And your arguments haven't convinced me otherwise and vice versa.
What rule, exactly, do I keep breaking? Be specific, and I'll see if I can stop breaking it.
Stolen concept, as we've been discussing for pages....just one of the many variations on the theme of self refuting ideas. I doubt you're going to stop, you claimed that it was central to your POV. I've not only told you what it was called, and how you did it, I've explained why it doesn't work(and this wouldn't be first time we've had this convo). But let's pretend that we haven't been having that discussion, because that's going to super productive.
I can see -why- you've come to the points you have, after accepting what you cannot. They would follow, if anything could follow.....but nothing follows a self refuting idea....even if it were ultimately true, in a sense unrelated to argument, a brute fact.
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