RE: Seeing red
January 19, 2016 at 12:52 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2016 at 12:58 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 18, 2016 at 11:31 pm)bennyboy Wrote: And in your totally material world view, material means math functions.We use math to describe material interactions. It's a useful and precise language...it helps us avoid common pitfalls of natural language, such as equivocation or interpretation.
Quote:Deepity. Cuz I always thought stuff was. . . you know. . . stuff.Stuff -is- stuff, and that's even less than a tautology, yes.
Quote:As in, occupying space, having form, and being unambiguously observable. But if "material" means "math functions and other abstract ideas," then I guess I'll be happy to drop the word Idealist and be a materialist. . . because apparently you've just taken Idealism and given it a new label.The -many- problems with this statement have been pointed out to you at length, but they hardly merit airing out in context of the conversation.
Yes, the material world fits the description for stuff that materialists use, hardly surprising since they're the ones coming up with those descriptions... and materialists don't think that stuff is made of math.
You have just attempted, and failed, a TQ defense of a self refuting idea. You're compounding confusion with misery at this point.
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