RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death
February 17, 2011 at 12:19 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2011 at 12:31 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
(February 17, 2011 at 11:29 am)Godschild Wrote: Yes God made a place called hell and it is for the unrepented sinners who reject Christ. God did not create demons or Satan and since you made the statment the burden of proof is yours RJ so show us how much you know about scripture and prove your statements. Only in your deluded mind is God Lord of hell.Sure, the burdon of proof is on me. Here it is:
Psalm 139:2-6 (English Standard Version)
2You(A) know when I sit down and when I rise up;
you(B) discern my thoughts from afar.
3You search out my path and my lying down
and are acquainted with all my ways.
4Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD,© you know it altogether.
5You(D) hem me in, behind and before,
and(E) lay your hand upon me.
6(F) Such knowledge is(G) too wonderful for me;
it is high; I cannot attain it.
These verses say that God knows EVERYTHING past present and future.
Colossians 1:16
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
These verses say that god created ALL things, heaven, earth, ANGELS, earthly rulers were created BY him and FOR him for HIS reasons.
Therefore, if the bible says that God knows everything, including the future choices of his creations.
...and the bible says God created angels.
Then god KNEW some of the angels he would create would "rebel" against him and become devils and demons, yet he created those angels anyways. God being all knowing as the bible claims MUST have wanted those angels to become demons, otherwise he would not have created them. If god didnt like them becoming demons, he would have avoided it. He did not avoid it in the bible..
...therefore..god CREATED demons.
If you try to say "but freewill.."
Well, god has freewill as well right? So he used his freewill to decide to let his angels become demons, and to let them roam around the Earth. If god doesnt like demons, then why does he not destroy them all now? God is using his freewil to NOT destroy demons because he WANTS them to exist...as the mythology so goes...he WANTS those demons to wreak havok on his creation until the judgement. Therefore, God wants demons to exist. God WANTS demons to tempt people away from him, and he will NOT stop them until he feels like he is ready to judge them in the second death. God is all powerful, yet he lets the demons continue..so he obviously WANTS the demons to do what they are doing, otherwise he would stop them with a flick of his finger.
(February 17, 2011 at 11:29 am)Godschild Wrote: OnlyNatural why is it that you think God would want you to live in heaven with Him if you do not believe in Him. The way I see it He is doing you a favor by not forcing you to live with someone you can not stand and since ther are only to places to spend eternity hell is all thats left.
Nice bifurcation there. If it isnt heaven then it is hell right? So either I suck up to a god that I dispise and spend eternity worshipping a god I dispise or spend eternity being tortured by a god I dispised. That is doing me a favor? You worship a DEMON! Doing me a favor would be giving me the non-existence after death. That isnt freewill. Thats someone forcing me to my knees holding a gun to my head saying "suck it or die".
Pretty sad for you..knowing an atheist is more up to speed on your religion than you are. You cant even get the basic concepts like "hell" about your religion...sad...
I also noticed you had nothing to say about your god being the creator of hell, and being the one who tortures people forever in it. You must like the sick, twisted idea of torturing people in fire forever...sick perverted bastard. Your belief in hell and your refusal to admit it is wretchedly disgusting speaks VOLUMES of the scum that surrounds your inner thoughts and desires. You fucking disgust me.
