Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death

[Godscreated]

To all who just responded to my statement, read it again and you will see that I do not believe that hell is a place where people will burn forever, you all read just what you want to so that you can complain about a christians beliefs.

One problem. Hell is eternal, and full of fire that burns, and people wailing and gnashing teeth. Jesus is quoted as saying this in the new testament. If you do not believe Hell is a place of eternal burning, and you think it unchristian to believe otherwise, then you have flat out contradicted the teachings of Christ.

Look man, you cant hold Jesus up as the supreme judge of morals and life and then pick and choose which ones you agree with Jesus on or not. Either he is the supreme, perfect judge or he made mistakes. He he is completely right or he is fallable.

Which one is it? Is the bible and Jesus correct about hell fire being eternal or are they wrong?

If you say hellfire isnt eternal, then I am JUST AS JUSTIFIED AS YOU to say that Jesus is not the savior..because if you think he is wrong about one thing, then why cant I think Jesus was wrong on another?

Jesus is the supreme judge of man and is never wrong and is a loving God. To let someone go to a firey place and suffer for eternity would be torture and God is not a torturer. Hell is a place of darkness, if it were full of fire it would not be dark. I do not know of anything worse than burning forever and I doubt you would disagree. So God chose this discription of hell because the mind of man can not concieve of the idea of eternal seperation from God and His love, the loneliness, the darkness of the soul and anything else that would be associated with this seperation. So you see I'm in full agreement with Christ when it comes to heaven and hell, it's your choice as to where you want to spend your eternal life as for me being with Christ and enjoying an eternal relationship with Him is exacyly what I've chosen.

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Yes God made a place called hell and it is for the unrepented sinners who reject Christ. God did not create demons or Satan and since you made the statment the burden of proof is yours RJ so show us how much you know about scripture and prove your statements. Only in your deluded mind is God Lord of hell.

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Sure, the burdon of proof is on me. Here it is:

Psalm 139:2-6 (English Standard Version)
2You(A) know when I sit down and when I rise up;
you(B) discern my thoughts from afar.
3You search out my path and my lying down
and are acquainted with all my ways.
4Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD,© you know it altogether.
5You(D) hem me in, behind and before,
and(E) lay your hand upon me.
6(F) Such knowledge is(G) too wonderful for me;
it is high; I cannot attain it.

These verses say that God knows EVERYTHING past present and future.

Colossians 1:16
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

These verses say that god created ALL things, heaven, earth, ANGELS, earthly rulers were created BY him and FOR him for HIS reasons.

Therefore, if the bible says that God knows everything, including the future choices of his creations.

...and the bible says God created angels.

Then god KNEW some of the angels he would create would "rebel" against him and become devils and demons, yet he created those angels anyways. God being all knowing as the bible claims MUST have wanted those angels to become demons, otherwise he would not have created them. If god didnt like them becoming demons, he would have avoided it. He did not avoid it in the bible..

...therefore..god CREATED demons.

If you try to say "but freewill.."

Well, god has freewill as well right? So he used his freewill to decide to let his angels become demons, and to let them roam around the Earth. If god doesnt like demons, then why does he not destroy them all now? God is using his freewil to NOT destroy demons because he WANTS them to exist...as the mythology so goes...he WANTS those demons to wreak havok on his creation until the judgement. Therefore, God wants demons to exist. God WANTS demons to tempt people away from him, and he will NOT stop them until he feels like he is ready to judge them in the second death. God is all powerful, yet he lets the demons continue..so he obviously WANTS the demons to do what they are doing, otherwise he would stop them with a flick of his finger.

OnlyNatural why is it that you think God would want you to live in heaven with Him if you do not believe in Him. The way I see it He is doing you a favor by not forcing you to live with someone you can not stand and since ther are only to places to spend eternity hell is all thats left.

Nice bifurcation there. If it isnt heaven then it is hell right? So either I suck up to a god that I dispise and spend eternity worshipping a god I dispise or spend eternity being tortured by a god I dispised. That is doing me a favor? You worship a DEMON! Doing me a favor would be giving me the non-existence after death. That isnt freewill. Thats someone forcing me to my knees holding a gun to my head saying "suck it or die".

Pretty sad for you..knowing an atheist is more up to speed on your religion than you are. You cant even get the basic concepts like "hell" about your religion...sad...

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I also noticed you had nothing to say about your god being the creator of hell, and being the one who tortures people forever in it. You must like the sick, twisted idea of torturing people in fire forever...sick perverted bastard. Your belief in hell and your refusal to admit it is wretchedly disgusting speaks VOLUMES of the scum that surrounds your inner thoughts and desires. You fucking disgust me.

Look at the above quote please, enough said about that. Yes God is omniscient and omnipresent and He has allowed this world to suffer through sin but that is not the way it has to be, one can chose to live in a relationship with Him and avoid much of what sin does to people. I've already answered your statment about God and torture and if you can't understand what I've said then your second chance to understand will come when you are before God at your judgement. God will allow you to bring up every excuse you can think of but when you leave His presence and head to hell well all I know to say is freewill baby freewill.

You know nothing about God if you did you would be living in a relationship with Him and you do not know more about Him than I do. I do not need to run to the Bible and look up ever little verse to use in an argument, I try to live in a relationship with Him every day and He puts on my heart those things in scripture that are important to my life. Yes I study the scriptures and that is why I can know when He is helping me through life. I know you do not care and thats OK if thats what you desire in your heart, one day the answer will come and for me it will not be to late for you that's up to you. I've stated this for others and will say it again I did not come to this forum to convert anyone I'm hear to be challenged to learn.