Seeing red

[The Grand Nudger]

I feel like I'm repeating myself and not really making any headway.  Is any of this helpful?

I think it's helpful in understanding your view, and I think you've done a good job of describing what KIND of systems you'd call mindful, and I believe it is mostly similar to Rhythm's unless I'm misunderstanding one of you.

I'm not convinced, though, that an intentional system meets my definition of mindfulness-- that is, the subjective experience of qualia.  But talking with you guys has given me an idea.  I wonder if it might at some point be able to develop an interface between minds to some degree, by attaching their physical mechanisms.  I wonder if a direct brain connection might enable me to actually EXPERIENCE someone else's qualia some day.

It may not meet your definition, regardless of it's truth.  OFC, one might wonder if one's self would meet that definition as well.  

An interesting thought (that I think you and I find some common ground on), our brains or minds are largely in some form of actual or philosophical isolation.  Our brains may not be using the same "code" after all this time spent alone.  It may be that without layers and layers of interpretation...such as spoken words, facial expressions, and body language....the exact experience of a system even slightly unlike yourself, fundamentally, is non-communicable.

The experience of the "other" sends a five digit command line when the users experience calls for six. What to do? My guess, approximate.