Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: January 7, 2025, 1:58 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Cultural Appropriation
#78
RE: Cultural Appropriation
(January 25, 2016 at 10:27 am)Dystopia Wrote: Thump, I don't think quoting a wikipedia definition will prove your point - Even so, perhaps I'm just using a stricter definition of cultural appropriation, and it is my right to do so - The word appropriation itself, derives from Latin, "appropriationem", and one of the possible meanings is "take possession of", so it confirms my view that it's taking something as if it was yours, not just enjoying it.

I'm going by what seems to be the commonly-agreed usage.

I'm unimpressed by appealing to etymology for current meanings, though. A word is not its roots. This is especially clear here, where the subject matter is abstract, yet you're using a word in a particular sense because its etymology denotes "taking possession" -- as if that may be done at all with the abstract.

(January 25, 2016 at 10:27 am)Dystopia Wrote: If you think appropriation is simply cooking Italian food or listening to Blues, then I would agree that it's fine, except I'd prefer to call it cultural exchange because I'm not appropriating anything as my own, I'm just learning about it and using it.

I'd suggest you go back and reread my post. This time, read the entire thing. I make it very clear that I do not think that "appropriation is simply cooking Italian food or listening to Blues"; I make it very clear that I see the justice of the complaints about, say, the adoption of native costumes. As for me, I am appropriating the blues -- because like everyone else, I have them some times, and the music is the perfect language for expressing them.

If you'd like to call it "cultural exchange", great, except I haven't given anything back. It's still cultural appropriation.


(January 25, 2016 at 10:27 am)Dystopia Wrote: Well, it looks like they are misappropriating your culture then Wink

No, what they're doing is being bigots.

(January 25, 2016 at 10:27 am)Dystopia Wrote: Similarly, I don't like it when Portuguese people from the south make fun of my northern accent, and I do think they are insulting the culture of most northerns, but I don't stop them from doing it... I just think it is wrong and prejudiced

Such exists everywhere. Confusing bigotry with the borrowing of cultural elements (which strikes me as an effort by SJWs to clothe their snobbery in righteousness) only makes the bigotry harder to combat, while not advancing the cause of celebrating the diversity of all people.

That's what really irks me about this concept of cultural appropriation: the idea that "this is mine" replaces the idea that "this is ours". We're all people, yet this movement celebrates putting up walls rather than tearing them down.

Reply



Messages In This Thread
Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 23, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Longhorn - January 23, 2016 at 3:27 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 24, 2016 at 9:30 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 24, 2016 at 11:45 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - January 24, 2016 at 11:36 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 3:31 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 3:43 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 3:46 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 3:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 4:18 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:22 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:25 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:49 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 7:53 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 4:30 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 4:39 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 24, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:38 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 5:51 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:52 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:41 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 4:55 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:56 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 4:57 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:58 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 5:21 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 7:58 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 5:14 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:56 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 5:35 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 5:43 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 6:01 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by paulpablo - January 24, 2016 at 9:18 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 6:06 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 6:09 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 24, 2016 at 7:07 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 24, 2016 at 9:54 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:00 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 9:58 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 25, 2016 at 6:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:03 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Ravenshire - February 6, 2016 at 2:02 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 24, 2016 at 9:34 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 24, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 25, 2016 at 1:57 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 24, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 25, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Sal - January 24, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 24, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 24, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:32 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 11:00 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Reforged - January 24, 2016 at 10:55 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 11:19 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Reforged - January 25, 2016 at 3:20 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 25, 2016 at 10:36 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 25, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - January 24, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 25, 2016 at 12:23 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 25, 2016 at 3:07 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 25, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 26, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Silver - January 25, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Brian37 - January 25, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Regina - January 25, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 27, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 25, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Rev. Rye - January 25, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 26, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by TheRealJoeFish - January 26, 2016 at 3:16 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 26, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2016 at 7:21 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 26, 2016 at 7:50 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 26, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 27, 2016 at 8:30 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 27, 2016 at 4:30 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 27, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 28, 2016 at 4:57 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Regina - January 26, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 26, 2016 at 6:48 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Alex K - January 27, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 27, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Eseka - January 27, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 31, 2016 at 12:51 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 31, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 31, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by paulpablo - January 31, 2016 at 8:14 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - January 31, 2016 at 8:55 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - February 6, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by TheRealJoeFish - February 6, 2016 at 1:40 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 2:15 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by paulpablo - February 6, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Athene - February 7, 2016 at 4:33 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 7, 2016 at 9:17 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Rev. Rye - February 5, 2016 at 10:15 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - February 6, 2016 at 5:20 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 6:50 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 6, 2016 at 8:10 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 6, 2016 at 11:07 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 6, 2016 at 2:49 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Athene - February 6, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 10:50 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 7, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 7, 2016 at 9:20 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  "Cultural Appropriation" bennyboy 349 84682 July 8, 2017 at 3:09 pm
Last Post: Shell B



Users browsing this thread: 15 Guest(s)