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Cultural Appropriation
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RE: Cultural Appropriation
(January 25, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(January 25, 2016 at 3:07 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: So now you get to pick for other cultures what is and isn't a offensive stereotype? What about the intent of the portrayer? What if I dress up as little Wayne or any black rapper because I relate with them and there music? Why do you think that you can't relate because they're a different race, isn't that racist in and of itself? Because someone is white they can't feel oppressed? Do you read what you write here? Its so faux progressive and divisive.
Edit: oh BTW your inference that I'm racist because I'm white and white people don't listen to natives, is racist. So noted.

What?! When did I say I was the one choosing. I said, in that post, that minority groups are not silent on this matter. The white people advocating for this sort of thing are just helping their voices be heard. When you talk about dressing like Lil Wayne, does that imply you'll be painting yourself black? Otherwise, I don't think Lil Wayne really dresses in a particular way. His usual outfit is a plain white T-shirt and baggy jeans. If you want to dress up as a generic hip hop artist then all the power to you. You'll wind up looking like Machine Gun Kelly. But you must know that painting your face black and wearing a grill would make it racist, right? Blackface has a very negative history in the United States. I know it's not looked down upon nearly as much in some European countries. Also, when the hell did I say white people can't be oppressed? In my first response I used German culture as an example. Are Germanic peoples not white?

I never inferred that you were racist nor did I infer that you personally wouldn't listen to natives because you're white. I'm saying that native people have discussed this topic FOR NEARLY A GODDAMN CENTURY and it only picked up steam when other white people voiced their concerns. I'm talking about us (I'm white too if you were wondering) as a group. But according to the first part of your response, you would have no problem dressing up as somebody else's culture...regardless of your reasons, you seem to be willing to do the opposite of the wishes of Native American scholars today and in the past. So it seems you don't listen to natives anyway.

I'm not advocating dressing up in blackface, if that is what your thinking. I'm advocating the idea of cultural appropriation because it is inherently divisive, and at its core racist in and of itself. Blackface isn't racist because its "cultural appropiation, it's racist because of it's long historical usage in north america, making it symbolic of a time when racism was so prevalent that they wouldn't cast black actors. The other example you cite is using traditional native garb for halloween. I would say that hugely depends on the intent of the wearer, because it could easily be paying homage to rich and ancient culture, or even more simply as a way of exploring said culture. A culture that is only now being revitalized in many places. So yes, I am for dressing as things from other cultures and agianst bleading "Cultural Appropriation!" even if only because when you get down to it, freedom of expression is a far more important right then the right not to be offended. I would also argue that the greater respect for native communites now has nothing to do with sjw's or white people lending their voice, but instead the much greater assertiveness in natives standing up for their own rights. But the situation may be different in the U.S.
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Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 23, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Longhorn - January 23, 2016 at 3:27 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 24, 2016 at 9:30 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 24, 2016 at 11:45 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - January 24, 2016 at 11:36 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 3:31 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 3:43 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 3:46 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 3:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 4:18 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:22 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:25 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:49 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 7:53 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 4:30 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 4:39 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 24, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:38 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 5:51 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:52 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 4:41 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 4:55 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:56 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 4:57 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:58 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 5:21 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 7:58 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 5:14 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 7:56 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 5:35 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by SteelCurtain - January 24, 2016 at 5:43 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 6:01 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by paulpablo - January 24, 2016 at 9:18 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 6:06 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 6:09 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 24, 2016 at 7:07 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 24, 2016 at 9:54 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:00 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 9:58 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by robvalue - January 25, 2016 at 6:48 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:03 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Ravenshire - February 6, 2016 at 2:02 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 24, 2016 at 9:34 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 24, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 25, 2016 at 1:57 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 24, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 25, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Sal - January 24, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 24, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 24, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 10:32 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by ignoramus - January 24, 2016 at 11:00 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Reforged - January 24, 2016 at 10:55 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 24, 2016 at 11:19 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Reforged - January 25, 2016 at 3:20 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 25, 2016 at 10:36 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 25, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - January 24, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 25, 2016 at 12:23 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 25, 2016 at 3:07 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 25, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 26, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Silver - January 25, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Brian37 - January 25, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Regina - January 25, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Dystopia - January 27, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by account_inactive - January 25, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Rev. Rye - January 25, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 26, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by TheRealJoeFish - January 26, 2016 at 3:16 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 26, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2016 at 7:21 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 26, 2016 at 7:50 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 26, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 27, 2016 at 8:30 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 27, 2016 at 4:30 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Aegon - January 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - January 27, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - January 28, 2016 at 4:57 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Regina - January 26, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 26, 2016 at 6:48 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Alex K - January 27, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Lemonvariable72 - January 27, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Eseka - January 27, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 31, 2016 at 12:51 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Whateverist - January 31, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - January 31, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by paulpablo - January 31, 2016 at 8:14 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - January 31, 2016 at 8:55 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by BrokenQuill92 - February 6, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by TheRealJoeFish - February 6, 2016 at 1:40 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 2:15 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by paulpablo - February 6, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Athene - February 7, 2016 at 4:33 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 7, 2016 at 9:17 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Rev. Rye - February 5, 2016 at 10:15 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Thumpalumpacus - February 6, 2016 at 5:20 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 6:50 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 6, 2016 at 8:10 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 6, 2016 at 11:07 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 6, 2016 at 2:49 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Athene - February 6, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 10:50 pm
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 7, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Cultural Appropriation - by bennyboy - February 7, 2016 at 9:20 am

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