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Ask a right-wing libertarian who is supporting socialist Bernie Sanders for President
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RE: Ask a right-wing libertarian who is supporting socialist Bernie Sanders for President
(January 27, 2016 at 1:38 am)scoobysnack Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 5:33 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Here's my thinking: if Trump wins the nomination (which seems likely) then we'll see a larger than average voter turnout, especially among young Democrats and Independents. That will hopefully elect a large number of Democratic congressional candidates, giving the Democrats the majority in Congress, making it easier for President Sanders to enact policy.

As for which policy, I think at the moment it's healthcare. Having lived most of my life in a country with a public healthcare system, I think I'm pretty qualified to say that what the US has sucks in comparison, even with the ACA. I'm saying that even as I live in Massachusetts, which I'm told has one of the best healthcare systems in the US anyway. I'd hate to think how bad it is in other states.

I won't be. Got to be a citizen and I can't even apply for naturalization until the end of 2017.

Hey Tiberius,

Honestly still not sure what to think of Bernie, or any of the current candidates. Personally I think they are all flawed (but so are we), and our country is going downhill. My problem with Bernie is small in that he allowed his speech in Seattle to taken over by black lives matter, and in an attempt to appease appeared weak to me. I don't know if I trust socialism, just like I don't trust communism. In the end it's run by special interests with connections to government lobbying efforts to score contracts and really screw the rest of us over while we believe our government is acting in our best interests.

I'm also not a huge fan of liberalism as much as I was during my adolescent years. Since I've learned of government corruption, I've moved away from government as a solution. I'm more libertarian, but realize we need government for basic services like roads, firefighters etc. The problem lies in when is too much? How much do we want trade individualism for collectivism? For example, does a child belong to the parent or the community.

As far as Trump, I still don't know of they guy is real. I like him because the establishment hates him, unlike other establishment candidates like the Bush/Clinton crime family, and how he's sick and tired of the PC culture like I am which goes against common sense.

Well this is how sanders explains his position,

"I think [democratic socialism] means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship all of our people have healthcare; that as a right, all of our kids, regardless of income, have quality childcare, are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big money interest. I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly. That’s all it means."

I'm not sure if that's socialism but I really don't see anything to disagree with there.

As far as Trump goes, so what he if he says things that are off the wall? How does that help solve the major issues that face America? He really hasn't given us anything but the occasional sound byte, what is his platform, what policy changes is he pursuing? All I know about a Trump is he is a birther, he thinks he can solve immigration by having Mexico build a wall Rolleyes , and he hates Megan Kelly.
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RE: Ask a right-wing libertarian who is supporting socialist Bernie Sanders for President - by Mr.wizard - January 27, 2016 at 5:40 am
RE: Ask a right-wing libertarian - by Minimalist - January 27, 2016 at 3:36 pm



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