Seeing red

[The Grand Nudger]

OFC redness is an idea, ofc its a facet of certain kinds of ideas.  Your mind does alot of work with ideas...there's not an -actual- apple in your head when you think about one.  If it worked like that there wouldn't be any hunger in the world.

Okay, and what are the physical constituents of this idea?  In what way should neurons be organized to allow us to see red, and more importantly-- if color is an idea, why doesn't selective brain damage not cause us to see new colors that don't exist?

It does..you've clearly never tripped.......

I mean, I can (and have) heard sounds that don't exist anywhere else.  I've seen forms that don't exist anywhere else.  I haven't seen colors other than those I can normally see with my eyes, even under the influence of drugs or anything else.

You mean you've never seen trails that weren't -really- there......?   Or are you wondering why you don't have qualia about something that your visual apparatus would be incapable of perceiving.........?

Why are you talking about rocks all the time?

They're a good basis for agreement and disagreement. Most people don't argue about what a rock is or what attributes it does or doesn't have. If dna has a will then so do rocks. Is this the sort of will we're talking about?

DNA has evolved which expresses itself in the form of organisms and their behaviors.  It has a will in the sense that the behaviors dictated by the DNA will actually come into conflict with the will of a human agent, and win.

If you have to use the phrase "will in the sense that" we're already done discussing it. It's obviously not will, you're attempting poetry. If you insist that it is then fine, can we get a disclaimer when you're talking about this kind of will?