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TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
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RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
(February 1, 2016 at 5:37 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: I think I was asking how strong/weak do you think Satan is compared to humans? I don't recall citing strength, just making an observation.

Quote:MrNoMorePropaganda

Satan is pretty strong compared to humans[/size][/color]

If you quantified the strength, then how and why do you ask about quantifying weakness ?


Quote:MrNoMorePropaganda

How did you quantify weakness?

In other words, you have to stick to the Quranic concept if you wanted to come up with a conclusion about this matter.
And according the Quran, Satan's plot is weak, but humans too are weak indeed, the author never said that Satan is strong, but he indeed cited and referred to Satan's failure in seducing a portion of humanity.

Claiming Satan is strong, is a claim you made without an evidence. 


Quote:Do you think a hatred of Satan could introduce bias into the scripture? Allah hates Satan right? If Allah is capable of anything then lying is a possibility, correct? Can Allah lie?

You think & believe that Allah is human; and not just any human, but a drama-queen who had a fight with her ex-boyfriend, and that's okay. 
God is not human, MNMP. It depends on your faith though, there is no point in repeating myself.

He doesn't lie, he is just, he is perfect.


Quote:"Probably a Sunni source added that "S" to the translation"
Incorrect! In case you don't know, unless I'm poking fun at Sahih International (the Saudi funded translation), I always use Abdullah Yusuf Ali. Abdullah Yusuf Ali was always Shia; he was never anything else (i.e. Sunni). He was born in 1873 in India.

Abdullag Yusuf Ali was a good man. He lived in England for a time (before Sharia courts started invading England) so I'm pretty sure he was influenced by any Fatwas. I simply assumed that the translation would use the word "alcohol" if it was referring to ancohol only. If you want to get mad at Quran translations get mad at the ones done within the last thirty years, because they have been corrupted by the science in the Quran narrative and are really dishonest.

 Sunni/Shia faiths are similiar in so many sentences -hence : both originated from Islam-, so I don't think that this is an argument against me. I just forgot to add the "/Shia" which I usually add in most of my posts.

This forgery is also committed by Shia.




Quote:I suspect that people will say that you're Kuffar if you think alcohol is anything less than "don't do it". Wine is big in Tunisia, but they're mostly secular. There may actually be some health benefits to consuming certain types of alcohol, but I can't see any justification for gambling, other than it can be fun. And when I say gambling I'm thinking of casino gambling.

Only the extremist & ignorant Sunnies/Shia, you can check this link :

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...st-alcohol

quoting it :

 
Quote:Numerous prominent Muslims throughout the ages drank alcohol. Even caliphs, such as the Abbasid ruler Haroun al-Rashid of  fame, were reputed to indulge, despite their title of "commanders of the faithful". 

Quote:Alcohol is much more dangerous than Hashish so I never understood why people ban Hashish. I heard it was because the Mexican immigrants smoked it and they didn't like that. Then Opium got banned because Chinese immigrants. And you get the idea.
Here you go, I think it's interesting:
EMBEDDED MEDIA 

Anyway, the Quran is full of threats to humans by Allah. But I'm not scared, and I don't see why I should worship such a bully. And you even said Allah doesn't need humans. So what's the point of all this? Is it just a sick game for Allah?

Allah just sits on a throne all day watching us suffer. That's just like al-Saud. And we all know what al-Saud and their henchmen are like. If Allah is so strong then it should stop people from drawing Muhammad, but instead it is left to the henchmen of al-Saud to kill people who draw cartoons of Muhammad.

Rather than send down a copy of the Quran from heaven Allah had to chose the awkward way to reveal. it. And the funny thing is, Muhammad is just like Zarathustra, who came nearly 2000 years before him, if not more.

Here are the similarities between Zarathustra and Muhammad:
1. Zarathustra preached Tawhid (monotheism).
2. Started gradually getting revelations from an angel of god in his thirties.
3. Fought against Pagans
4. The Magi, who are in power at the time, offered Zarathustra anything he wanted if only he would stop preaching monotheism.
5.  Zarathustra also talked about the fall of man.
6. In fact,  When the evil spirit refuses to praise god's creation, it sounds exactly like Satan refusing to bow to Adam, and I quote:
The Evil Spirit snarled, "Why should I aid your creatures? Why should I praise them? I am more powerful! I will destroy you and your creatures for ever and ever."

7. After all of the other animals, god created one man, Gayomard and some of his bones eventually grow into a woman.

Just trying to say the Quran is not original.


You can guess why weed is porhibited Smile
Many parties has a monopoly on alcohol and tobacco, they cannot allow marijuana to come in and sweep them out of business, truth be told, if maijuana became legal, alcohol and tobacco will receive a devastating shock.

 The sun is hot and it burns my skin if I stand in it for so long, but I never called it a "bully". 
Meaning is, the word bully cannot be used with allah; it doesn't make any sense. I explained in my previous comment.

For example : the universe forces a lot of laws on you, if you go against them, you get torn to pieces. So does it make any sense to call the universe "bully" ??

The Quran actually, did mention that this religion is so so so ancient, so Zarathustra  ,might be a prophet sent by God. Actually, this might proves Islam even more.

I need to read more about him though.
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TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 7:26 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 3:32 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 26, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by MysticKnight - January 27, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Nay_Sayer - January 29, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 8:45 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 26, 2016 at 9:05 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 9:54 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 5:10 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 1, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 7:36 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 3, 2016 at 2:41 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 1, 2016 at 9:03 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ChaosInACT - February 8, 2016 at 10:02 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Minimalist - January 26, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Nay_Sayer - January 26, 2016 at 6:30 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 27, 2016 at 6:16 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 27, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 27, 2016 at 6:55 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 27, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 27, 2016 at 8:41 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 27, 2016 at 6:31 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by MysticKnight - January 27, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 27, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 27, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 28, 2016 at 2:37 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 28, 2016 at 5:24 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 28, 2016 at 5:28 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 29, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 28, 2016 at 6:41 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 28, 2016 at 8:54 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by SofaKingHigh - January 28, 2016 at 9:00 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 29, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 30, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 30, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 1, 2016 at 3:50 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 1, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 3, 2016 at 2:02 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 31, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 28, 2016 at 7:14 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 28, 2016 at 9:00 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by The Grand Nudger - January 28, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 29, 2016 at 5:02 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 29, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 29, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 31, 2016 at 5:28 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by mralstoner - January 31, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 1, 2016 at 2:36 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 1, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 1, 2016 at 5:16 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 1, 2016 at 7:10 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 2, 2016 at 5:26 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Edwardo Piet - February 3, 2016 at 3:02 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 3, 2016 at 7:46 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 3, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 3, 2016 at 8:21 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 4, 2016 at 4:05 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 6, 2016 at 6:36 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 6, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by MysticKnight - February 4, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by dyresand - February 4, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 7:12 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 6, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 8:04 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 1:46 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ApeNotKillApe - February 7, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 7:30 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 11, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 11, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 13, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 8:12 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 10, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by abaris - February 10, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 12, 2016 at 5:46 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 12, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 12, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 13, 2016 at 2:56 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 13, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 14, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 15, 2016 at 2:59 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 15, 2016 at 4:18 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 15, 2016 at 3:13 am

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