(February 3, 2016 at 4:58 am)Rhythm Wrote:(February 3, 2016 at 4:50 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Let me tackle this one more time. By religious observance or institution, surely, you mean religious observance and institution that doesn't involve a belief in God(s)? Because otherwise your statement doesn't make any sense.
No, I don't mean that at all, I mean exactly what I said.
Some people think that the religious institutions or observances are the operative part in any harm done, not the belief in the gods. They can be concurrent or separate. For you and I, the belief is operative, for you, the belief and the religion is operative, and for Evie the religion is operative.

Without the belief in the gods, the religious institutions and observances wouldn't exist(when talking about theistic religions).
Without the religious institutions and observances, the belief in the gods wouldn't make any sense.