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Christoid Logic
RE: Christoid Logic
(February 4, 2016 at 12:49 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(February 4, 2016 at 9:43 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The terms of the equations are something's not nothings.
Though hardly anyone would argue that it is the equations pre- existed. Rather, some kind of quantum state which the equations describe.
Yes, that is more what I meant to say. The symbols and the rules by which they manipulate values in themselves are indeed merely descriptive. At the same time, they model underlying proscriptive principles. In other words, equations can describe what happened after the fact and also predict what may happen in the future, but things still happen for a reason. The equations are about something causally active.

The modern notion of causality is based on separating one event from a subsequent event by intervals of time for utility. As Hume observed one can nearly always insert between two events some intermediate events separated by shorter intervals. For example, Big Jim Walker hustling Willy McCoy later causes Big Jim to hit the floor dead. In between these two events, there is Willy’s bar room challenge that causes Big Jim Walker to fight back. During an even shorter interval there is lots of shooting and stabbing that causes blood to cover everything but the dead man’s feet.

Prior to Hume, efficient cause was not defined in terms of disparate events; but by describing one event that links two or more objects expressing their properties. As such, an efficient cause is not an event or process but the objects that ‘cause’ the change. For example, the baseball striking a window is the same event as the window being shattered by the ball. In this single event, the baseball expresses its momentum and the window simultaneously expresses its fragility. Thus both the baseball and the window are, as objects, the efficient causes. The event results in the affected objects having different properties.
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Christoid Logic - by GodCherry - February 3, 2016 at 7:24 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Angrboda - February 3, 2016 at 7:39 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 3, 2016 at 7:49 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Jackalope - February 3, 2016 at 7:43 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 3, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 3, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Jackalope - February 3, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 3, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Jackalope - February 3, 2016 at 8:02 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Angrboda - February 3, 2016 at 8:09 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Jenny A - February 3, 2016 at 11:45 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Jenny A - February 3, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 7:50 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 3, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 4, 2016 at 5:37 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 7:57 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by GodCherry - February 3, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Aroura - February 3, 2016 at 11:16 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 1:10 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 4, 2016 at 6:51 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Jackalope - February 3, 2016 at 7:59 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 4, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Grandizer - February 4, 2016 at 11:14 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by downbeatplumb - February 4, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by RobbyPants - February 17, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by MysterMenace - February 19, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Whateverist - February 3, 2016 at 7:35 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 4, 2016 at 11:23 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 1:04 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 7:53 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by TanithDaUnicorn - February 3, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 8:07 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by dyresand - February 3, 2016 at 8:25 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by TanithDaUnicorn - February 8, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by ignoramus - February 3, 2016 at 8:03 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Minimalist - February 3, 2016 at 8:06 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by ignoramus - February 3, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Whateverist - February 3, 2016 at 9:25 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 9:27 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 9:32 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by rexbeccarox - February 3, 2016 at 9:39 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by The Valkyrie - February 3, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 9:42 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by ignoramus - February 3, 2016 at 9:27 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by dyresand - February 3, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by GodCherry - February 3, 2016 at 8:45 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 8:37 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by GodCherry - February 3, 2016 at 9:13 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 9:18 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 8:44 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 8:50 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 8:56 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by dyresand - February 3, 2016 at 9:15 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by GodCherry - February 3, 2016 at 9:15 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by GodCherry - February 3, 2016 at 9:23 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by The Valkyrie - February 3, 2016 at 9:19 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 9:25 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Homeless Nutter - February 3, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 9:14 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by The Valkyrie - February 3, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 9:24 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 9:29 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Homeless Nutter - February 3, 2016 at 9:52 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 9:56 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Silver - February 3, 2016 at 9:58 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Homeless Nutter - February 3, 2016 at 10:01 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 10:02 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by ignoramus - February 3, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Pat Mustard - February 17, 2016 at 3:49 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 17, 2016 at 10:12 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by KevinM1 - February 3, 2016 at 10:37 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Whateverist - February 3, 2016 at 10:45 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 4, 2016 at 2:00 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Pat Mustard - February 17, 2016 at 5:22 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 19, 2016 at 2:26 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 11:39 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 3, 2016 at 11:47 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Pat Mustard - February 17, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 17, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 3, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Whateverist - February 4, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by ignoramus - February 4, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Athene - February 4, 2016 at 2:23 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Catholic_Lady - February 4, 2016 at 6:48 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 5, 2016 at 10:53 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Ravenshire - February 4, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 4, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 4, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 4, 2016 at 12:04 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by ignoramus - February 4, 2016 at 2:26 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Athene - February 4, 2016 at 2:44 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Ivan Denisovich - February 4, 2016 at 2:33 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Athene - February 4, 2016 at 2:42 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by robvalue - February 4, 2016 at 4:25 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Athene - February 4, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by robvalue - February 4, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 4, 2016 at 9:43 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Jenny A - February 4, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 4, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 4, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Whateverist - February 4, 2016 at 3:13 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by FatAndFaithless - February 4, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 4, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by FatAndFaithless - February 4, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 4, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 4, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by FatAndFaithless - February 4, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 4, 2016 at 1:57 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 4, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 5, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by John V - February 5, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 6, 2016 at 1:48 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 7, 2016 at 2:31 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by John V - February 9, 2016 at 9:52 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 9, 2016 at 10:07 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 9, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 9, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 9, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Mister Agenda - February 9, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by John V - February 6, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Grandizer - February 6, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 6, 2016 at 2:26 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by John V - February 9, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 7, 2016 at 5:14 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 9, 2016 at 9:57 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 9, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Angrboda - February 9, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Neo-Scholastic - February 9, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 9, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by Alex K - February 10, 2016 at 4:05 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 12:41 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 9, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by DanTheOutlaw - February 10, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Christoid Logic - by robvalue - February 17, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by vorlon13 - February 17, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by ignoramus - February 18, 2016 at 4:28 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 19, 2016 at 3:06 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 19, 2016 at 3:32 am
RE: Christoid Logic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 19, 2016 at 3:48 am

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