Antitheism

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Aaaaaannnnd THAT, ^^^  EP, is why Deism is NOT meaningless.

That, right there, is the attitude I wish every Theist on Earth would wake up with, tomorrow morning.

I'm not against people believing in God.

I'm against Religion...the Dogma and crap people heap ONTO their Faith in God.

Completely arrogant, completely unnecessary, completely dangerous.

The fact that it's more or less harmless doesn't speak as to whether it's meaningless or not. I wish theists were deists as well, but furthermore I would wish they were all rational. And rationality doesn't allow for a meaningless belief like Deism.

Thank you for being civil. It is appreciated.

How on earth can you argue that ANYTHING that effectively defangs religion, is "meaningless"?

I have short-circuited many extensive arguments on religion,
and gotten many Theists thinking,
simply by asking them if they've ever heard of "Deism",
because many of them have never considered the idea that it is possible to allow for the existence of a God
without piling dogmatic rubbish on TOP of that belief;
to simply say,

" I think there's a God, but I don't think all the religions of the world have anything to do with Him;
I think man made all that stuff up, and God may well exist, but has yet to actually show His hand to mankind,
and until He does, I'm not going to be so arrogant as to presume to know what He wants or doesn't want;
what He loves or what He hates. "

THAT is what I mean by holding Theists RESPONSIBLE for their choice to support a RELIGION!!

I'm saying that they need to recognize that it is actually IRRESPONSIBLE TO THEIR OWN GOD
to presume that all the dogma that their entirely-fallible fellow many has told them ABOUT God
may well be untrue, especially since it is so full of flaws.

You say God is meaningless without Religion, and I can't think of a more untrue statement.

What is absolutely vital, and absolutely great about Deism,
is that it allows Theists to have an "out":

They can retain their belief in God,
but realize that they are free to let go of Religion:
BECAUSE THEY OWE IT TO GOD TO DO SO, ASSUMING THAT GOD DOES, IN FACT, EXIST.

Just because Religion exists, doesn't mean that there is actually a God.

But on the other hand,

just because Religion sucks,
doesn't mean that there is NOT a God out there, either...

...a God who never spoke to a single prophet, anywhere,
and had NOTHING to do with any of the world religions,
and is NOTHING like what they say He is like...

...except that He is the creator of all things,
and therefore, yes...is the "truth" behind everything.