(February 23, 2011 at 1:09 pm)Watson Wrote:(February 23, 2011 at 11:21 am)theVOID Wrote: Bullshit, to earn salvation you need to accept a dead jewish zombie as your slave master. Good deeds are not enough, being ethical is not enough, if you deny the spirit you can not be saved - "But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin" - Mark 3:29Bullshit yourself, VOID. You obviously didn't understand what was said. Salvation is bestowed, it is the acceptance of that salvation that is entirely dependent upon the person. Once you accept God, once you accept the Holy Spirit, once you truly believe in it you will see that it was there all the time; it was merely your unwillingness to see that blinded you. The haze is internal. The shadow is allowed in by choice.
What I am saying boils down to this; God is the one who bestows salvation upon a person, and once a person recognizes this they have come into their own salvation by choice. Aside from reiterating this over and over, I've already spoken my views on this forum many a time. So your asking me to tell you then is silly.
Quote:Good thing the holy spirit is a completely bullshit fairy tale, oh wait, I've committed an unforgivable sin, guess I'll be having a crispy afterlife...It's called change, VOID. Geddit?
@Strongbad: And what facts would it be that I deny?
And where did I try to tell you why and how your "faith" is the way it is?
What I did was point out that ALL Christians enter into a salvation contract with their God. You confirmed that it is indeed a contract when you stated "Once you accept God, once you accept the Holy Spirit, once you truly believe in it" i.e., as soon as you fulfill your obligations under the contract, then "Salvation is bestowed" i.e., God performs the benefit. What you have avoided is the contention that all Christians enter into the contract based upon hearsay.
@ Captain S - excellent point - the contract is entered under duress, under the threat of eternal damnation should one not agree to be bound by its terms.
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