(February 23, 2011 at 1:09 pm)Watson Wrote:(February 23, 2011 at 11:21 am)theVOID Wrote: Bullshit, to earn salvation you need to accept a dead jewish zombie as your slave master. Good deeds are not enough, being ethical is not enough, if you deny the spirit you can not be saved - "But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin" - Mark 3:29Bullshit yourself, VOID. You obviously didn't understand what was said. Salvation is bestowed, it is the acceptance of that salvation that is entirely dependent upon the person. Once you accept God, once you accept the Holy Spirit, once you truly believe in it you will see that it was there all the time; it was merely your unwillingness to see that blinded you. The haze is internal. The shadow is allowed in by choice.
1) That's exactly akin to saying "I bestow upon you this offering of strawberry, but you can't simply accept, you have to become my bitch first, if you don't accept my offer I'm going to boil your balls in hot oil"
2) That's both preaching AND bullshit. Firstly, if you're just going to winge on about how God is real and we have to accept it to see if you're not making an argument, you're wasting time. Secondly, that's the same as saying I believe x therefore x - It's no more legitimate than a Muslim saying "Once you accept Allah as the one true god you will see that Jesus isn't lord"
3) You cannot chose to believe, you have to be persuaded.
Quote:What I am saying boils down to this; God is the one who bestows salvation upon a person, and once a person recognizes this they have come into their own salvation by choice.
1) It's not a choice first and foremost, you have to believe it first.
2) Once you believe it the choice is a) Accept jewish zombie as my slave master, b) Burn in hell. \
Your deity is a complete thug.
Quote: Aside from reiterating this over and over, I've already spoken my views on this forum many a time. So your asking me to tell you then is silly.
Right, and like we've said, Faith is believing something for which you have absolutely no reason to.
Quote:It's called change, VOID. Geddit?
Change? Do you mean the church changed what parts of the bible they believe OR your god changed his mind? But he's atemporal, changing his mind requires two states of affairs minimum...
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