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They’re all bought and sold: American democracy belongs to the billionaires now
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RE: They’re all bought and sold: American democracy belongs to the billionaires now
(February 5, 2016 at 3:26 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't think that there is any credible solution to that problem emanating from the office of the presidency regardless of whoever sits in the chair.  If we want to break big businesses monopoly we're going to have to do it from the bottom up, not by throwing a hail mary to a political messiah figure.  

Whens the last time you broke big business anything, even for a few people, with a vote, let alone a vote for the office most beholden to big business -regardless- of a candidate's personal commitments.  Assuming that Sanders really isn't personally beholden or sympathetic to a business interest (uh-huh.....).....he will inherit the commitments, sympathies, and debts of the office in addition to his own.

If you want to break big business stop lazily assuming that a vote is even capable and break it yourself.  That's what we're all going to need to do.  Big business exists because it makes the shit we want.  Unless we start making the shit we want big biz isn't going to lose any influence.  Take time you would have taken to cast your useless lot for Sanders and whittle a damned chair instead.  That will go farther toward breaking Big Chair  Biz than your vote will.

A vote for someone like Sanders is a vote for moving forward. Even if Sanders doesn't win, or even if Sanders wins but can't do anything in the White House at this stage in time, by just being a candidate running a competitive candidate for presidency and/or eventually becoming President, that would send a big message to the big guys that people's interests are in conflict with the corporate ad elite interests. I would not consider such a vote to be useless in the long term. Having Bernie become President would be a big fuck you message to the big guys from the people who voted him in. And maybe that would lead to something positive in the near or distant future.
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RE: They’re all bought and sold: American democracy belongs to the billionaires now - by Grandizer - February 7, 2016 at 2:50 am

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