RE: Evolution of morality
February 25, 2011 at 4:38 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2011 at 4:48 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
(February 18, 2011 at 5:52 pm)OnlyNatural Wrote: I'm sure the atheists here agree, I just thought this video summed it up well.Only natural. You posted the video code incorrectly ... you posted this:
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[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCL63d66frs[/video]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCL63d66frs

(February 25, 2011 at 10:21 am)Captain Scarlet Wrote: 1. No one has demonstrated that morality actually exists as a thing instantiated in the universe. As RJ has described there are social norms which we consent to as humans, some of which are consistent across geographies some of the time. But I am not aware of any moral code that is followed across all of time and space by a particular species. Morality is a concept within the framework of ethics, which helps us to describe the way we feel in certain situations. Much as numbers are concepts in the framework of maths which help us calculate; outside their frameworks morality/numbers are abstract concepts which do not exist.
2. Evolution. It depends what you mean. In its purest sense yes. But when used in this context implies progression. For me it is only "moral" change that we have gone through, which has been forced upon us by urban dwelling, civilisation, healthcare and in the west and now the east wealth. Remove some of those and we will undergo change over time which will perhaps be viewed as regressive, but will infact be just change
Seems Like Captain scarlet is over near the "absurdist/nihilist" side of the philosophical fence where I am. Im Absurdist and find things that arent strictly mechanical materialistic to be subject to humans forcing their own intent and emotions onto something that ISNT human emotions and intent. By what measuring stick do we use to judge religions, governments, societies, and every other human invented ideology? Its all absurd if you ask me. Why cant I just say that I will live and let live if you do the same without having to tag some kind of "meta-ethics" or "philosophie" title to justify it? When does this all break down into some shit that people just made up to make themselves feel better in the presence of a cold, inhuman Cosmos?
*note* Please notice that I said "human invented ideology". I am not saying "logically impossible". I am saying "humanly impossible". The Human condition (emotion) is the point I am stating.