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TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
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RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
(February 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote:
(February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: With the drop in Oil prices, they won't be able to spend like they used to.
Not only that, the wars in the Yemen, Iraq and Syria aren't going to end anytime soon and al-Saud has big stakes in those wars. I hope the Houthis and the terrorists they fund in the region can invade Saudi because al-Saud deserves it. Pretty sure the Saudi pilots don't really want to be bombing innocent people in the Yemen, and it clearly exposes al-Saud's brutality to the word for all to see.

Death & mass killings that wars cause are not something I would wish for. 
Why don't the west and Russia stop selling weapons to the Saudies & the Houthies instead ?

Or for a change, why don't Britain fix what it did in the Sykes-Picot agreement ? it can discuss with France how to fix the mess they made by slicing a one, big chunk of land into 20 or more states, each with funny national anthems & hilarious flags. Fake nations; deemed to be restless.

Al-Saud are indeed brutal, but their brutality can be stopped or at least decreased anytime, if the "Kuffar" stopped selling them arms to go on with their crimes. And who brought them to the throne anyways ? you should be aware of that.


Quote:Well, Jafari is mentioned in the  as one of the recognized Madhhab, along with Ibadi, Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i, Zahiri and Zaydi. But not Ishamali strangely. King Abdullah of Jordan seems to me to be a reasonable man, and Ishamalis seem to me to be reasonable people (unlike the Jafaris). I can understand Ahmadi not being recognized, but Ishamali? I don't understand.


Saying what Islam is, and what Islam is not, must not come from political regimes, because we'll witness a bias issue. 
What is the difference between this, and between Wahhabi puppets who believe what other political regimes say about what Islam is ?


Quote:All I can seem to find on the Internetz are these outlets of Fascism. For people who hate everything modern, these Wahaabi/Salafi types have really embraced modern technology. It's rare that I find actual people of knowledge, and everyone keeps retorting how much they adore these Fascist Da'is.

All I can really find on YouTube are these personalities who complain about materialism but are constantly begging for your money and spend on lots of designer clothes, nice gadgets and going on many holidays where they achieve nothing other than further division (between not just the Ummah and the Kuffar, but between the groups of the Ummah too). Not only that, they travel around like homosexual men and the sexual repression of these Wahaabis is obvious.

They are humans, if you hadn't notice it just yet. So of course they will embrace the technology they grew up with.
Nobody adores them; but they treat them like humans; because : they are humans, MNMP. I feel you are treating them as if they were a savage tribe, that is alien to the human race. Let's not turn it into a "Lord of the Rings" scenario, where Wahhabies & Salafies are painted as "orcs".

Wahhabism is not a race or a gender, neither is it an animal kingdom. It's a line of thought.

Yes, they are extremely easy to manipulate, and since their way of belief is full of logical holes & mistakes & contradiction to the main religion, they can be used by different powers, to cause certain disturbances. 

Like turning Sunna against Shia; to do that it's easy to manipulate "Wahhabies" to battle "Twelvers"; soon, each will drag the whole sect with them.


Quote:Majority of YouTube is lying Wahaabis. I am sure you also took issue with Adnan Rashid's defining of the word "thumma" towards the end of the video. I remember seeing him on the TV once on a current affairs show and he told the Rabbi something to the effect of: "I believe in your right to believe in the stoning of people to death (like the Torah allows) and I will defend your right to believe that." And the lady was shocked that he should defend stoning like that; he was trying to make himself look good at the expense of Jews. He was basically saying: Jews believe in stoning too, so why criticize me and not them?

You can watch the entire show here, with context, if you have a spare hour:
(in the show they talk about Wahaabi infiltration of some British schools, which was the news at the time, because if a school is frequented by 90% Ummah apparently the children don't deserve a secular education. Apparently letters were sent out claiming that Salafi parents would be the best people run these schools because they are strictest.)

They say: don't throw rocks at others, when your own house is made of glass.

He did make a point, in the media, you rarely hear about the violence existing in the Torah & the Bible. In Palestine, Arabs suffered from Jewish extremists who were pretty much worse than ISIS. But hey : you'll be called anti-Semite. Because that story is told, with facts and lies.

Though, stoning has no base in Islam. It never was mentioned in the Quran. But Adnan was aggressive, and trying to put Nawaz to shame, so he slipped. Threw rocks, and his house was so fragile. One should not be hotheaded in debates.

But the point about the Torah ? yah, that's a point that wasn't answered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Torah

Stoning homosexuals and women is a Jewish thing, plain & simple. But blamed on Muslims despite the Quran not having anything related to that. Sadly, many Sunnies followed in their footsteps




Quote:I went for some Mexican today. And the 'pulled' pork burrito was pretty nice. It saddens me that people don't want to eat pork because it does not harm as much as some other foods deemed Halal. Alcohol (which you defended), and even chicken have done more people harm than pork. For chickens its though salmonella or bird flu (and there are videos on YouTube of chickens eating rats and mice by the way so it's not just pigs who can be disgusting). I think there is an Iyah in the Quran which says that if you're dying then you can eat and drink forbidden things, but I can't remember which one it is.

Just like with the new Mexican food outlet which opened today, I would be straight in if someone was kind enough to offer Arab food. I'm not sure if I'd rank Arab food above or below Ramen, but I really like Kebabs and Falaffels. And Egyptians like bread, and I like bread. One day I will learn how to make my own flatbread.

I hope you check your sources; such a verse does not exist.
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TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 7:26 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 3:32 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 26, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by MysticKnight - January 27, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Nay_Sayer - January 29, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 8:45 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 26, 2016 at 9:05 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 9:54 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 5:10 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 1, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Losty - February 1, 2016 at 7:36 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 3, 2016 at 2:41 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 1, 2016 at 9:03 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ChaosInACT - February 8, 2016 at 10:02 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Minimalist - January 26, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 26, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Nay_Sayer - January 26, 2016 at 6:30 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 27, 2016 at 6:16 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 27, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 27, 2016 at 6:55 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 27, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 27, 2016 at 8:41 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 27, 2016 at 6:31 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by MysticKnight - January 27, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 27, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 27, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 28, 2016 at 2:37 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 28, 2016 at 5:24 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 28, 2016 at 5:28 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 29, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 28, 2016 at 6:41 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 28, 2016 at 8:54 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by SofaKingHigh - January 28, 2016 at 9:00 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 29, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - January 30, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 30, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 1, 2016 at 3:50 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 1, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 3, 2016 at 2:02 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 31, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 28, 2016 at 7:14 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - January 28, 2016 at 9:00 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by The Grand Nudger - January 28, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 29, 2016 at 5:02 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 29, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 29, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - January 31, 2016 at 5:28 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by mralstoner - January 31, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 1, 2016 at 2:36 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 1, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 1, 2016 at 5:16 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 1, 2016 at 7:10 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 2, 2016 at 5:26 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Edwardo Piet - February 3, 2016 at 3:02 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 3, 2016 at 7:46 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 3, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 3, 2016 at 8:21 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 4, 2016 at 4:05 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 6, 2016 at 6:36 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 6, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by MysticKnight - February 4, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by dyresand - February 4, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 7:12 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 6, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Bob Kelso - February 6, 2016 at 8:04 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 1:46 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ApeNotKillApe - February 7, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 7, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 7, 2016 at 7:30 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 11, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 11, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 13, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 8:12 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 10, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by abaris - February 10, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 12, 2016 at 5:46 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 12, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 12, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 13, 2016 at 2:56 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 13, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 14, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by WinterHold - February 15, 2016 at 2:59 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by ReptilianPeon - February 15, 2016 at 4:18 am
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded! - by robvalue - February 15, 2016 at 3:13 am

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