(February 13, 2016 at 5:54 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(February 12, 2016 at 5:04 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Yeah, but mass shooting and 'gun deaths' aren't the issue that I'm addressing. Which is the claim that banning guns is going to reduce the homicide rate. Which it didn't in the UK.
There has been a rise in criminal gang activity in the UK and a sharp rise in the population with very little in the way of gun related gun deaths. It seems likely that without gun regulation gun deaths would have increased.
What you seem to be saying is that America and Americans are by nature more prone to shooting people. Is this really your argument?
Not by their nature, probably because of a wide variety of complicated issues, wealth disparity, poverty, culture etc. But yeah, I mean I think the data backs that up pretty well; the UK has always had a lower murder rate then the US, even when their gun laws were similar. The gun laws in the UK didn't change the murder rate there, I don't see why they would in the US.