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Ash Wednesday
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RE: Ash Wednesday
(March 19, 2009 at 10:12 am)infidel666 Wrote: I think that there is a difference between being convinced that God does not exist and being a gnostic atheist. A gnostic atheist KNOWS (i.e., has proof positive that is OBJECTIVELY undeniable) that god does not exist. As an agnostic atheist, I too am convinced, for all practical purposes, that there is no god. But I will not go so far as to say that I KNOW there is no god. Such a conclusion must be reached by FAITH, and I don't do faith.

I'm at the same point as you. Though to be fair, the two ideas are virtually identical. I'm an agnostic atheist and don't believe there is a god. A gnostic athiest knows (or thinks he knows) that there is no god and hence believes there is no god. The difference is in the way we look at it. I might be 100% convinced that there is no god, but I can't say that I know by empirical, observable evidence that god is not real.

What does a gnostic atheist use as his proof that there is no god? Can he actually find any? If not, why would a gnostic atheist be a gnostic atheist at all? Surely they understand that faith is not a form of proof.
"I think that God in creating Man somewhat overestimated his ability." Oscar Wilde
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Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 25, 2009 at 12:14 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - February 25, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 25, 2009 at 12:42 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - February 25, 2009 at 1:09 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by LukeMC - February 25, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Rockthatpiano06 - February 25, 2009 at 2:24 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 25, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - February 25, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Rob - February 25, 2009 at 8:30 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - February 25, 2009 at 8:48 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 26, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - February 26, 2009 at 2:40 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Kyuuketsuki - February 26, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - February 26, 2009 at 11:08 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 26, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - March 12, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - March 12, 2009 at 8:22 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - February 27, 2009 at 11:22 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - February 28, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - February 28, 2009 at 8:34 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - March 1, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 6, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 6, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 9, 2009 at 12:01 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 9, 2009 at 6:54 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 10, 2009 at 11:08 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 11, 2009 at 9:53 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 11, 2009 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 11, 2009 at 6:55 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 12, 2009 at 10:23 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Sam - March 12, 2009 at 12:00 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 12, 2009 at 7:23 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 13, 2009 at 11:16 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - March 13, 2009 at 3:43 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 4:44 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - March 13, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 14, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - March 19, 2009 at 10:12 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by athoughtfulman - March 19, 2009 at 10:54 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 20, 2009 at 7:24 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - March 20, 2009 at 1:01 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by athoughtfulman - March 20, 2009 at 1:23 am



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