RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws
February 29, 2016 at 4:47 pm
(This post was last modified: February 29, 2016 at 4:49 pm by robvalue.)
Well, I'm referring to having an experience. "I" am nothing more than a non-static collection of cells, yet "I" have an experience as a whole. Maybe a rock has an experience, of a different kind. The experience seems to be a byproduct of consciousness. That doesn't mean it's the only thing it can come from. You could argue that there is no experience, that this too is an illusion. But it's all I actually have!
I have no reason to think rocks do have an experience, and it's unfalsifiable and therefor useless. This is exactly what happens when you do the WLC thing and use philosophy without evidence. You reach no conclusions that are of any use.
I'm differentiating between consciousness and the experience, because in my case I have an experience. I can't be sure anyone else does. I think it's called the "problem of other minds", formally. Something like that. I think it's unsolvable. Of course, I assume other people do have experiences. It's a very sensible assumption. I'd have no reason to think they don't; I just can't be sure.
I have no idea what probability I'd give to solipsism being true or false, if I had to guess I'd say 50/50. But given solipsism is false, I'd be happy saying 99% that other "people" have experiences.
If you guys feel that is part of solipsism, or that it doesn't even need assuming, that's cool. Personally, I think it is an assumption, but a very sensible and obvious one. Again, it's unfalsifiable and therefor useless.
Coming back to rocks: they have no way to communicate their experience, at least none that we know of. That doesn't mean they don't have any. I wouldn't find it any more absurd than us having experiences. It's just ours are in your face.
But this is all mental masturbation. I find it interesting, but it's useless.
I have no reason to think rocks do have an experience, and it's unfalsifiable and therefor useless. This is exactly what happens when you do the WLC thing and use philosophy without evidence. You reach no conclusions that are of any use.
I'm differentiating between consciousness and the experience, because in my case I have an experience. I can't be sure anyone else does. I think it's called the "problem of other minds", formally. Something like that. I think it's unsolvable. Of course, I assume other people do have experiences. It's a very sensible assumption. I'd have no reason to think they don't; I just can't be sure.
I have no idea what probability I'd give to solipsism being true or false, if I had to guess I'd say 50/50. But given solipsism is false, I'd be happy saying 99% that other "people" have experiences.
If you guys feel that is part of solipsism, or that it doesn't even need assuming, that's cool. Personally, I think it is an assumption, but a very sensible and obvious one. Again, it's unfalsifiable and therefor useless.
Coming back to rocks: they have no way to communicate their experience, at least none that we know of. That doesn't mean they don't have any. I wouldn't find it any more absurd than us having experiences. It's just ours are in your face.
But this is all mental masturbation. I find it interesting, but it's useless.
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