RE: Free will & the Conservation Laws
March 1, 2016 at 10:00 am
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2016 at 10:11 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 1, 2016 at 9:20 am)robvalue Wrote: A mimic who isn't having an experience "like me" would appear just the same as a real person who was actually having one, and would return the same answers and physical properties under testing.
You seem to be setting up a position where something would pass your tests and you'd still..effectively, fail it. That doesn't seem sensible. When two things are indistinguishable under scrutiny........
How would a mimic be able to mimic you if there was no experience of you to mimic -by-? Just happened to get it right, over and over? If it were mimicing -you-...we could get another interrogater. If it "seems like" whomever is questioning it, regardless of the differences between all the questioners we brought forward....that would bring up suspicion. It will have failed a subtle test (as the test of asking something what it sees is not, actually, meant to determine what the object sees or the accuracy or commonality of it's perception with you). Sure, you may be witnessing, for example, an artifact of the designer's experience, a clever toy. Due diligence would demand that you pursue that angle. Still testable, isn't it?
Is it your opinion that a turing test is uninformative, unreliable, simply an assumption, or not even a test.... for example, with regards to experience?
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