The not-so-fine tuning argument.

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Ah yes! The "he didn't quite totally fuck it all up" argument.

Yeah, theists generally can't make their mind up whether God made the rules, or God showed up with some rules already present. They have to believe both, because committing to either shoots holes right through their explanations.

All we have is the evidence: the so-called designed universe. It points to a designer that is either unconcerned with us, or is hopelessly bad at designing. It boggles my mind that theists could be impressed with this outcome, given the power and resources the designer is meant to have.