RE: One sentence trump for everyone
March 5, 2011 at 6:14 pm
(March 5, 2011 at 5:41 pm)azharrison Wrote: I should have been more clear: God, Satan, Vishnu, Spaghetti Monster etc... ANY diety benign or malevolent faces the same scrutiny. Are you saying that they could be lying to us about the entire 13.7 billion year origin of the cosmos, evolution, etc... seems it would be more complicated to plant the evidence than it would be to accept impirically the overwhelming evidence as it is uncovered... In this lie, there is, in my opinion, waaaaaay to many details to consider, with all the tools we use for gathering evidence, i.e. spectroscopy and carbon 14 dating come to mind as to VERY elaborate and accurate measurements, but also the forces of techtonics, fossil beds, the intricate evolution of languages and cultures, geneolgy, etc. and they all seem to tie together with amazing precision to help unravel the mysteries of the world around us.
Yes, yes and yes. But an all powerful malevolent being can snap his fingers and make all of this faked. Loki created the cosmos last thursday, and he gave everything, including human memories, the appearance of old age. For a human to do a conspiracy of that magnitude would surely be impossible, but an all powerful malevolent trickster god? Childs play. Remember, this is just hypothetical. I am not trying to convince anyone this is real or anything. Its just a mental exercise of sorts with lots of examples from reality tossed in. This is the trump. Its the greatest conspiracy of all time. Are we being duped by an all powerful trickster god? I think it makes for great fiction.
(March 5, 2011 at 5:41 pm)azharrison Wrote: As to the virus = malevolence question, I think the entire struggle for existance model is nothing BUT an example of the countless "arms races" between species... as dawkins says, (sorry but I am paraphrasing 'cus I don't wanna look it up ..) "whose side is god on anyway, the cheetah or the gazelle". Or sharks and seals, frigates or terns, etc.... each slowly evolves and advantage over the other resulting in so many specialized forms.
In this situation who would know? For one instance Loki may be for the Cheetah, the other for the Gazelle. It depends on whatever his mood would be at the time.