(March 3, 2016 at 8:27 pm)AJW333 Wrote:(March 3, 2016 at 9:33 am)robvalue Wrote: If something is true, then it is true, yes. That's called a tautology.I don't wish to go round in circles and I understand that you have been through similar arguments more times than you'd like. So I appreciate your patience.
If the actual law of nature, and not just our model, was that life could only come from life then...
Life would only come from life.
But no one has established that is actually the case. In fact, I believe science is very close to understanding exactly why this is false.
Quick question: Who cares? Jumping ahead, I don't care. If scientific theories are wrong, I don't care, except for curiosity as to what new theories would replace them. If there's "a god", I don't care. If the christian god is real, I don't care.
And no amount of trashing science will produce evidence for any sort of "god", whatever that is.
Let's say we all accept that at some point life came from non-life. Let's say we also agree that from the laws of physics and from natural phenomena, we cannot explain how this happened. Until such time as a rational explanation can be offered, tested and proved, it would be reasonable to label abiogenesis as a supernatural event (using the definition as supplied).
(March 3, 2016 at 8:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: No, it is the predictable result of watching religitards try and fail to demonstrate that their fantasies are real.Minimalist, can you say with absolute certainty that there is no God?
I'm not sure that someone's poor representation of something qualifies as proof of anything.
I feel no need to. All that is required is to point out that you...as the alleged proponent of such a being...can produce no evidence of it.
If you ever find some feel free to submit it for consideration. I doubt you will do any better than those who have tried before.
(p.s. your bible is not evidence. your bible is the claim. Before you waste your time waving one around.)