The backbreaker

[Nihilist Virus]

You are trying to convince me they had trouble translating a number?  They couldn't tell if a symbol was 42 or 22?  That claim is in serious doubt.  It's quite clear that this was scribal error.  God willfully refused to preserve the translations despite the presumed fact that the scribes prayed to God that he would watch over their transcribing process.

You mean to tell me that you really believe the age of this man changes the entire Bible, that's ridiculous the Bible as a spiritual guide is perfect and without error in this purpose. You nit-pick something so trivial as this, I pity you.

I'm not clear on what you say towards the end there.  You seem to say that the NIV is one of your least favorite versions but you trumpet it for getting the two verses to agree?  Also the NKJV has the same error as the KJV, so neither of your favorite versions are perfect... unless of course the error is intended, or perhaps part of the perfection, in which case:

I didn't trumpet anything, the least favorite of mine has the same thing said that's all, this version was translated by many different professional linguist and Biblical scholars from many different denominations, by the way I did not say it wasn't good just one of my least favorites. The King James Bible was translated by a few men all believing the same thing and not only that the king that that version was named after tried to influence these men, stick with it if you wish. I know little about the NKJV because when it came out I was told by reliable people not much was changed. To bad too, they had a chance to bring it up to date. Would you stick with the older science books that we now know have grievous errors, most Christians are intelligent enough to find better translations to learn from.  

Do you realize how ignorant you are about God and His rights. First off, I do not own my wife (you must think a man owns a woman after they are married), I can't take her life, God's law and the law of the land both prohibit such an action.

Whether or not you own someone does not change the fact that if you cause them to be fatally ill and then refuse to heal them, you are in fact killing them.  That you are killing them is factual in any universe, in any state of reality, in any context.  So when you say, "God did not kill the child, as I said He allowed the child to die. God did strike the child ill and He did not heal the child," you are being a complete idiot.  End of story.

True, for man, as I said we own no one that's why the law applies to man and not God. 
No, you called God a murderer which changes the whole context of what you've presented, you meant He was a murderer, that was your original primes. I have no problem with you saying God took the child's life, He did. God took what belonged to Him, God gave the life it's His right to take what belongs to Him.
Kinda' like you can't actually steal from yourself.

God as creator of all people has the right to take the life He has given and in some instances He does, but most people die of accidents or natural causes. If God had not allowed a life it would not have been, so even your life is in His hands. This said, God takes what is His to start with when He decides to.

Again, EVEN IF this is correct, it's still true that God tortured and killed that baby.

The child was sick for a few days and then died, you do not even know if the child ever was in pain, you are grabbing at straws, stop and let's have an intelligent conversation.

Why on earth do you think it would be a good thing for you to compare yourself to that clown?

Drich is not a clown, he's well educated in scripture. We do disagree on somethings however we agree on the most important thing, that salvation through Christ is man's only hope. Besides I think what he said was quite good.

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You wanted answers I gave you answers to your question, quit avoiding the truth. You'll have to ask the Sadducees, as far as I know the scriptures do not say.
You need to get honest with yourself when someone answers your questions with truthful answers. 



Citation please, I gave you the verses to show my belief and all you've done is post a verse, make an assumption about it and then precede to call me names after I've shown you to be wrong, typical of many atheist here. Whine little babies I do not want to converse with and don't. I see your deception, you leave out the verses I use, the truth about the scripture you posted and you leave it all out, why, to call me names because you have failed to prove your point of view.


Now you're playing like a child, what you've said above has no relationship to the verse. I see a desperate child grabbing at any outrageous idea that comes to it's immature mind. I used scripture to show you what the verse means, you use your made up stuff that doesn't even make sense. If your going to disprove what I say use the Bible, you required it of me.


You continue to use foul language and this ends, period, grow up and at least sound like an adult. I used scripture to prove my point an formed a common sense intelligent belief that happens to be accepted by most Christians. You say I missed things in the scriptures yet I bring passage after passage to prove my points and you've yet to do the same. I've studied and read scripture more times than you will in the next 100 years, I've taught youth from adults. You can't even remember what I stated in my last post, Jesus laid down His powers in heaven to become man, a man able to fall to sin. According to scripture Jesus laid down His power in heaven to become a man, He now has it again and at your death you will find this out, hopefully you'll be on the right side of the tracks.

I bold your last statement above to direct this at it. You are like a ranting young'n who got his butt kicked in a game of kickball or something. My point is this you and I are finished unless you can grow up and ditch the tirades of a spoiled little brat. If we are going to continue discussions you are going to have to follow your own rules and provide scripture to prove your point, you expect it of me and cry if I don't so I'll hold you to this every time.

GC

Firstly, you want to say that Jesus had no power on earth and yet he was never denied power by God. In other words, he never said, "is this your card?" and then the people said no. He was never left hanging by God, except for when He was crucified. So however you want to describe his miracles, it is quite factual that my interpretation in your interpretation are indistinguishable.

Now the rest of our argument here is kind of irrelevant to the original post, so before I get into all that stuff some more let me just ask you a couple questions: if I could get you to agree that Deuteronomy 24:16 is talking about a physical death, or a physical execution, then would you agree that I have proven my case? Would you agree that I have provided the backbreaker as advertised? If no, what else do you think I'm lacking in my premises?