RE: The Problem with Christians
March 5, 2016 at 8:11 am
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2016 at 8:15 am by AJW333.)
(March 5, 2016 at 2:35 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:No discussion with or about Grandpa's heart as he had no known heart problems at the time of the dream. Two people having the identical dream would be exceptionally rare, especially given that they had the dreams at about the same time. To add a further level of unlikeliness that it was coincidence, the event happened about a week or so after the dreams happened. Two prophetic dreams that came true - I find it compelling.(March 4, 2016 at 1:17 am)AJW333 Wrote: You think two people having the identical dream about a precise event in a specific location that actually happened is guessing or mere coincidence? I would look at the probabilities against that happening as being mind-mindbogglingly high.
If your wife knew her grandfathervhad heart troubles and if it was worrying her, she would be thinking "what if he has a heart attack?"and out in the yard is a bad place to have it, away from view and away from stuff like phones if he were conscious. It's not that big of a jump to start dreaming about one's grandfather dying of a heart attack.
I wouldn't be suprised if you wife had other dreams about her grandfather dying and this is the only one your remember because of its seeming predictiveness. I remember having a dream once about moving into a house and meeting one of my fellow tennants who was a jockey and said he recently won a race. Imagine my suprise when I moved house a few days later when I did move house ant the conversation happened like I imagined. This wasn't god speaking however, I read the sports news and the race was high enough profile that it was written about, I had received some information from my mother's friend who had put me in the know about the room to rent, and the jockey's name is James, very common. Just a bunch of details I had that my subconscoiusness threw together into a lucky coincidence.
(March 5, 2016 at 8:04 am)abaris Wrote:if I saw something supernatural happen, would my testimony not carry weight since I do have a degree in science?(March 4, 2016 at 7:22 pm)AJW333 Wrote: At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this isn't true. What I'm saying is that if something violates the laws of physics, like a rock floating off into space, then that qualifies as a supernatural event, not just something requiring some further modelling or redefining the law of gravity.
Not wanting to sound like a broken record either, but I repeat - alert us when rocks floating off into space are an observed and confirmed occurence.
And, again, not wanting to sound like a broken record. Johnny Noname claiming to have seen it happening and other people buying his tale with awe, doesn't count as confirmation. Scientists observing the phenomenon would do nicely, thank you very much.
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