(March 4, 2016 at 11:30 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote:(March 4, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Godschild Wrote: You mean to tell me that you really believe the age of this man changes the entire Bible, that's ridiculous the Bible as a spiritual guide is perfect and without error in this purpose. You nit-pick something so trivial as this, I pity you.
I didn't trumpet anything, the least favorite of mine has the same thing said that's all, this version was translated by many different professional linguist and Biblical scholars from many different denominations, by the way I did not say it wasn't good just one of my least favorites. The King James Bible was translated by a few men all believing the same thing and not only that the king that that version was named after tried to influence these men, stick with it if you wish. I know little about the NKJV because when it came out I was told by reliable people not much was changed. To bad too, they had a chance to bring it up to date. Would you stick with the older science books that we now know have grievous errors, most Christians are intelligent enough to find better translations to learn from.
True, for man, as I said we own no one that's why the law applies to man and not God.
No, you called God a murderer which changes the whole context of what you've presented, you meant He was a murderer, that was your original primes. I have no problem with you saying God took the child's life, He did. God took what belonged to Him, God gave the life it's His right to take what belongs to Him.
Kinda' like you can't actually steal from yourself.
The child was sick for a few days and then died, you do not even know if the child ever was in pain, you are grabbing at straws, stop and let's have an intelligent conversation.
Drich is not a clown, he's well educated in scripture. We do disagree on somethings however we agree on the most important thing, that salvation through Christ is man's only hope. Besides I think what he said was quite good.
Firstly, you want to say that Jesus had no power on earth and yet he was never denied power by God. In other words, he never said, "is this your card?" and then the people said no. He was never left hanging by God, except for when He was crucified. So however you want to describe his miracles, it is quite factual that my interpretation in your interpretation are indistinguishable.
How do you know God the Father wouldn't give Him power to heal certain people. There's a huge difference in the way you see Jesus and I see Him. If Jesus had brought His powers from heaven to earth then Satan could have and would have claimed Jesus used powers greater than man to avoid sinning. Satan would not have missed such an opportunity to gloat. Please remember I have said God the Father gave Jesus powers to heal and do other miracles, not the power to resist sin. I given evidence of this through the scriptures in my last post.
NV Wrote:Now the rest of our argument here is kind of irrelevant to the original post, so before I get into all that stuff some more let me just ask you a couple questions: if I could get you to agree that Deuteronomy 24:16 is talking about a physical death, or a physical execution, then would you agree that I have proven my case? Would you agree that I have provided the backbreaker as advertised? If no, what else do you think I'm lacking in my premises?
All the truth I given goes to show you have no back breaker, so yes they are relevant.
You can't get me to change my mind on the truth, Deut. 24:16 is not speaking to physical death. The verse says a son shall not be put to death for a fathers sin and visa versa. As I said before not all sin required a physical death but all sin requires a spiritual death. The verse doesn't specify certain sins so the meaning therefore is all sin. God allowed generations of families to suffer from certain sins, but death wasn't always part of what God allowed.
Your lacking any proof, you haven't disproved not one of my arguments against what you've presented.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.