You know that the "Year of Jubilee" was every 50 years, right? No coincidence they let their fields lie fallow the same year they free all the servants, eh? Heh.
Seriously, though... consider what a 50-year prison sentence would feel like, if you were locked up right now.
Consider that the only reason you're in prison (in this example) is that American soldiers came to your country (say, Canada), killed most of the men of your town, stole the women, knocked you out but didn't kill you as you fought, and grabbed you as part of the spoils of war, then sold you to CCA (Corrections Corporation of America) to work in our melon fields in the irrigated deserts of California for the next 30-50 years. Imagine that these Americans pointed to their holy book and said "God told us to do thus".
Just like that, it happened; this is what the Israelites (and a lot of other ancient peoples) did to a lot of other peoples... that's why it specifies that the Israelites must not rule over one another "with rigor", the way they do to people of other races. Get it?
While you sit here and quibble over whether the American, Hebrew, and Roman slavery systems were identical (they weren't) or merely resembled one another (they did), you're missing the big picture: the people who claim to speak for God have condoned a system that is appalling even by modern standards, even though our modern system is also far from perfect... we're not great, but we KNOW that it's wrong to own human beings as your personal property, even if you're eventually forced to set them free and even if there are limits on how badly you could treat your slaves.
From Wikipedia:
Southern slave codes did make willful killing of a slave illegal in most cases. For example, in 1791 the North Carolina legislature made the willful killing of a slave murder, unless done in resisting or under moderate correction. Historian Lawrence M. Friedman wrote: "Ten Southern codes made it a crime to mistreat a slave. ... Under the Louisiana Civil Code of 1825 (art. 192), if a master was “convicted of cruel treatment,” the judge could order the sale of the mistreated slave, presumably to a better master."
[Internal citations omitted.] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_codes
Seriously, Huggy, watch Rob's posted video. It's not very long, it's funny, and it brings up the point we're trying to make. If you claim Book X was written by Infinitely Wise Moral Being Y, then we need to examine this claim and see if it holds weight. You're quibbling with us about why it was not as bad as the slavery systems we universally (nowadays) deplore, and we're asking you WHY WOULD THE ETERNAL CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE ALLOW HIS PEOPLE TO OWN THEIR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AS PROPERTY FOR ONE FREAKIN' DAY!?!?
Seriously, though... consider what a 50-year prison sentence would feel like, if you were locked up right now.
Consider that the only reason you're in prison (in this example) is that American soldiers came to your country (say, Canada), killed most of the men of your town, stole the women, knocked you out but didn't kill you as you fought, and grabbed you as part of the spoils of war, then sold you to CCA (Corrections Corporation of America) to work in our melon fields in the irrigated deserts of California for the next 30-50 years. Imagine that these Americans pointed to their holy book and said "God told us to do thus".
Just like that, it happened; this is what the Israelites (and a lot of other ancient peoples) did to a lot of other peoples... that's why it specifies that the Israelites must not rule over one another "with rigor", the way they do to people of other races. Get it?
While you sit here and quibble over whether the American, Hebrew, and Roman slavery systems were identical (they weren't) or merely resembled one another (they did), you're missing the big picture: the people who claim to speak for God have condoned a system that is appalling even by modern standards, even though our modern system is also far from perfect... we're not great, but we KNOW that it's wrong to own human beings as your personal property, even if you're eventually forced to set them free and even if there are limits on how badly you could treat your slaves.
From Wikipedia:
Southern slave codes did make willful killing of a slave illegal in most cases. For example, in 1791 the North Carolina legislature made the willful killing of a slave murder, unless done in resisting or under moderate correction. Historian Lawrence M. Friedman wrote: "Ten Southern codes made it a crime to mistreat a slave. ... Under the Louisiana Civil Code of 1825 (art. 192), if a master was “convicted of cruel treatment,” the judge could order the sale of the mistreated slave, presumably to a better master."
[Internal citations omitted.] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_codes
Seriously, Huggy, watch Rob's posted video. It's not very long, it's funny, and it brings up the point we're trying to make. If you claim Book X was written by Infinitely Wise Moral Being Y, then we need to examine this claim and see if it holds weight. You're quibbling with us about why it was not as bad as the slavery systems we universally (nowadays) deplore, and we're asking you WHY WOULD THE ETERNAL CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE ALLOW HIS PEOPLE TO OWN THEIR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AS PROPERTY FOR ONE FREAKIN' DAY!?!?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
