(March 7, 2016 at 6:54 pm)abaris Wrote: Cheiney has a lesbian daughter, but by all accounts, they're not getting along well.
But, as for the general problem. This, as everything when it comes to atheism, is a much bigger problem in the USA than anywhere else in the Western world. We have an openly atheist president at the end of his second term. Not as powerful as the US office, but he still got elected by a landslide because he's a decent guy. And that's saying something, considering my general opinion of politicians. Berlin, for about a decade had an openly gay mayor, as had Hamburg or Paris. The German liberal party, not to be mistaken for the American definition of liberal, had an openly gay chairman for over a decade, who even made it to being vice chancellor in a conservative administration.
Thats because the rest of the sane world isn't held hostage by a bunch of fear mongering assholes. Would be nice if our allies could convince more here to ditch pandering to the worst in us.
You know what I have suggested in the past, instead of having a vice president on the same ticket, the loser becomes vice president. That way it is like a death spiral if one fucks up both go down and both parties get blamed. But even with that, you don't know the implications as to how something new can get manipulated, in the end every aspect of society, be it political business or religion are still run by humans.
