(March 7, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Cato Wrote:(March 7, 2016 at 7:22 pm)Mathilda Wrote: How much welfare can you claim if you are an illegal immigrant? Surely being illegal you wouldn't want to let the authorities know so how would an illegal immigrant actually claim it? An illegal immigrant would come to America to work for lower wages because no income tax is paid.
First thing, illegal immigrants being a burden on government sanctioned assistance is a complete misnomer. They're ineligible. To take advantage would require falsification of documentation and if anyone thinking that 'natural born' citizens aren't the biggest waste in this area are deluded.
I don't have the exact figures, but almost 48% of the U.S. population pay zero income tax. I'll assume for the sake of argument that most illegal immigrants have a gross income that would put them in this category. How then does 'no income tax' become a rallying cry for xenophobes? Ignorance and stupidity I say. This of course doesn't account for the false social security numbers set up that illegal immigrants pay into and can never hope to recover.
Again, not paying income tax does not mean not paying tax at all. If that same 48% that pays no income tax suddenly stopped buying anything at all, not only would the government lose sales tax, but the businesses would lose profits.
Now if the current estimate of illegals is 11 million, just that sudden lack of revenue to businesses and sales tax to the government would be jarring if not fatal to the economy.
It is physically impossible to remove that many people all at once even if I agreed. But beyond that it is still inhuman to me to send non violent humans back to places where they might starve or get murdered from violence or war or get arrested by the governments they fled.
I only agree that violent humans get deported, and if we have to deport non violent humans we still need to make sure where they go back to they can be stable. What's the point in sending someone back to instability, it will just produce more instability.
People think in terms of borders, but this planet is not a infinite line that we can expand on. It is globe and we all live on this globe.
