RE: The Problem with Christians
March 8, 2016 at 8:34 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2016 at 8:41 pm by AJW333.)
(March 7, 2016 at 11:28 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: There are limitations on our free will already. Can I levitate objects with my mind? Can I see the infrared spectrum?In my understanding, free will without the possibility of carrying out the will is no free will at all.
Certainly, your god could have designed physical barriers to sin, in which we could have all the will in the world to do something and yet it is not physically possible to do it. This would represent no more a violation of free will than my inability to breathe in space even though my will may be to breathe in space. It is clear your god chose not to do this, and by necessity, it must have been because he intended these things to be possible.
(March 8, 2016 at 7:35 am)abaris Wrote:If the supernatural operates outside the laws of science, how can I prove it with science?(March 8, 2016 at 6:43 am)AJW333 Wrote: For you? I doubt there is any evidence that will satisfy you. What could I possibly write that you wouldn't accuse me of making up or lying about?
So try me with scientific evidence. You claim to have a science degree. You should know how to take it from there.
(March 8, 2016 at 9:22 am)Stimbo Wrote: Exactly. Crying off with "you won't accept my evidence" is arrogant presumption and not your call to make, AJ. If you're concerned that your evidence might not stand up to examination, it's nobody's problem but yours. Get better evidence.Check my post just previous to this one. By its very nature, the supernatural defies scientific explanation. It's like saying, "I demand you use this system to prove something that operates outside this system." How do we do that?