(March 9, 2016 at 5:57 pm)Esquilax Wrote: " Free will is a property of the mind, an ability to make choices and goals for oneself, but it doesn't necessitate that you be successful at those goals, or productive in those choices.Agreed.
(March 9, 2016 at 5:57 pm)Esquilax Wrote: To be clear, this is the only form of free will that you can be talking about without defeating your own argument, because if your definition of free will includes success in freely chosen actions necessarily, then free will is impinged upon every day simply by dint of our own physical limitations.When I use the term "free will" it is with the understanding that it relates to actions that are possible.
(March 9, 2016 at 5:57 pm)Esquilax Wrote: If free will doesn't necessitate that I be successful, then there's no reason at all for god to allow any form of human-imposed suffering, because that suffering could be freely chosen by those who wish to inflict it, without resulting in a successful end result for those people.You may have to reword this as I don't follow the argument.
